Ops is like Hotel California.
That’s very true indeed.
Wfh is the worst thing for a dev.
Source: married to one, friends with several
I work at one of the top ten data processors in the world.
ALL of our devs have been WFH since 2014 and produce better work now than ever.
At what cost to themselves?
Willing to bet they work a minimum of 150% of the hours they’re paid for
I dunno man, they’re really happy with the work life balance and the C-suites are happy with their productivity.
It’s funny even our sales and logistics departments are wfh, and the only people I ever see on the off chance I need to load a tape rack or something is security and building maintenance.
And we’ve been RIDICULOUSLY profitable all through covid. In fact covid only served to show the remaining staff how productive WFH is.
We are making so much money rn that they don’t even CARE about property costs and they leave the lights and AC on 24/7 for maybe 2 people in the entire site, and our 3 satellite sites are just as empty.
Sure there may be some A type salesbro personalities that need to be around others to work effectively, the largely spectrum oriented development community needs no such frippery.
I don’t think working overtime has much to do with WFH vs office for most people. We have a lot more WFH here since covid, and the only people I know that work a lot of overtime already did that before WFH was introduced.
For me, WFH means an hour more of free time, as I don’t have to spend it in traffic on my way from and to work.
To be honest, WFH for me means that if they need me to fill an hour in extra or so per day, then that’s kind of already costed in with travel times.
I’ve pulled 14 hour shifts covering for PTO or sick days and it really doesn’t feel even half as exhausting as a normal in-office 8 hours.
Depends on the company, project, manager and teammates. That being said, fuck WFO. Hybrid should be the bare minimum in 2024.
eh, as usual the best option is one that let’s people choose.
Hubs can’t wfh, he completely loses any and all definition of set work time
eh, as usual the best option is one that let’s people choose.
Hubs can’t wfh, he completely loses any and all definition of set work time
Wfh is the worst thing for
a devHubs.Fixed it for you
Missed the earlier post where i mentioned other devs as well, huh.
I’ve been doing tech for 25 years, we have terrible work life boundary issues that are very readily exploited. (And yes, i have been wfh since 2015)
Hybrid is the best. There are certain types of work which needs my undivided attention and collaboration with my team; office. Other work which I can do slowly and alone; home.
HR: “But what about the bond? Team building exercises. Company morale. It will fall apart-”
Can you shut the fck up?
You guys leave work?
Game developers: 🥲
Can unfortunately confirm
My job involves going out to sites to install equipment sometimes. This means as long as I’m walking out with a box in my hand I can leave whenever I want. My boss doesn’t care where I am as long as things get done.
My boss doesn’t care if I log in at 11 and log out at 3 with a 2 hour lunch in the middle, but to be fair, my boss is me and I’m pretty chill.
Can you be my boss plz?
I typically stay at work until 5pm because I make no effort to come in early and I take long lunch breaks.
This place is an absolute ghost town by 5, and it makes me happy to see that. It seems people mostly have their heads on straight here.
Same at my new place, i tend to take a shorter lunch and leave earlier, i usually get into office at 8am or slightly before
What? No! I leave at 6pm. (But start at 2)
You sure it isn’t the finance and management guys leaving at 4pm and earlier while developers are expected to work past hours and even at home?
Don’t forget Sales people too. At my company they frequently schedule fun activities right in the middle of the day.
Not everyone has a coke budget 😞
“Sorry we don’t live our lives for the opportunity to destroy ourselves for senpai company owner like you.”
My supervisor doesn’t know how to maintain what I build, despite me attempting to show her. At this point, we openly pity each other, her because I have no desire to do more than what my job entails, take the paycheck, and leave to go live my life, and I because she proudly has no life to go home to because she spends 12 hours a day plus here acting like Jesus on the cross for the greedy, indifferent owner.
Nothing breaks after 5pm because there aren’t any developers still doing releases.
Technically correct, which is the best type of correct
Edit: as long as you are not part of the infrastructure team. Then things break right after 5 PM.
Brother, life is too short not to leave when you want.
What?? Special occasion.
Get a government job; everybody leaves at 5pm
Who isn’t racing out the door at 5pm? I trade labor for wages, I’m not sticking around for unpaid overtime just to make some investor who’s never worked a day in his life even richer.
These are the same people who measure lunch breaks by the second and suddenly become careless with clock after 5
