• IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Im fairly certain that what I’m about to say will be disliked by ketamine users and abstainers.

    Ketamine is garbage at everything besides temporarily lobotomizing people. It works for it’s many uses because it makes the user stupid. It’s often given to suicidal people, not because it’s a miracle drug, but because it incapacitates them in a safe manner.

    That said, it’s great at making people too stupid to be able to hurt themselves, most of the time. It’s great at numbing psychological pain because the user will be too stupid to conceptualize their own thoughts or realize where they are physically.

    It’s also hard on the urinary system and has a fleeting high.

    If you like ketamine then by all means, you do you. If you may be interested in trying ketamine, become a zombie safely, just don’t expect it to cure your depression, woes, or any of your other problems.

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      11 months ago

      I judge my desire to try drugs by how people act when they’re on them. Do they look like they’re having fun at least? Two drugs I’ve never had an interest in:

      Ketamine

      Nitrous

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        11 months ago

        That’s unfortunate. The effects of many drugs can be entirely mental rather than visual, leaving the person looking like they’re just laying down with their eyes closed, or staring into space.

        Particularly, ketamine, as a dissociative, at higher doses, is entirely in your mind. What a person in that state looks like from the outside is zero indication of what they are experiencing.

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          11 months ago

          It’s not unfortunate. To me drugs are entirely unnecessary to begin with. And if I choose to use them it’s to enhance an activity, not to replace an activity or be an activity on its own. I’ll be fine.

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            11 months ago

            Well that’s not what we were talking about though, was it? We were talking about you judging people based on how they may look while under the influence. That’s ignorant.

            Also, I find this to be amusing:

            To me drugs are entirely unnecessary

            Uh huh, so I guess antibiotics are off the table? I sure hope you don’t die from a minor infection. Hope you never get diabetes or high blood pressure. No cough medicine or allergy medicine either, that’s annoying. I hope you don’t have any serious allergies, because EpiPens sure as shit count as “drugs”.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah, I’m gonna take the peer reviewed studies results that show that ketamine is quite effective with relieving drug resistant depression over this post of yours…

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        11 months ago

        I have no dog in this fight, but any studies done on brain chemistry and psychological effects need to be taken with a grain of salt. We know so little about the brain and consciousness that most of the stuff we’re trying and doing are educated guesses.

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          11 months ago

          Ketamine is garbage at everything besides temporarily lobotomizing people. It works for it’s many uses because it makes the user stupid. It’s often given to suicidal people, not because it’s a miracle drug, but because it incapacitates them in a safe manner.

          This quote from you contradicts what you’ve just said.

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      11 months ago

      Or, get this, everyone experiences drugs differently and your bad anecdote is irrelevant next to the mountains of evidence and peer reviewed studies.