• IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Im fairly certain that what I’m about to say will be disliked by ketamine users and abstainers.

    Ketamine is garbage at everything besides temporarily lobotomizing people. It works for it’s many uses because it makes the user stupid. It’s often given to suicidal people, not because it’s a miracle drug, but because it incapacitates them in a safe manner.

    That said, it’s great at making people too stupid to be able to hurt themselves, most of the time. It’s great at numbing psychological pain because the user will be too stupid to conceptualize their own thoughts or realize where they are physically.

    It’s also hard on the urinary system and has a fleeting high.

    If you like ketamine then by all means, you do you. If you may be interested in trying ketamine, become a zombie safely, just don’t expect it to cure your depression, woes, or any of your other problems.

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      I judge my desire to try drugs by how people act when they’re on them. Do they look like they’re having fun at least? Two drugs I’ve never had an interest in:

      Ketamine

      Nitrous

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        That’s unfortunate. The effects of many drugs can be entirely mental rather than visual, leaving the person looking like they’re just laying down with their eyes closed, or staring into space.

        Particularly, ketamine, as a dissociative, at higher doses, is entirely in your mind. What a person in that state looks like from the outside is zero indication of what they are experiencing.

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          It’s not unfortunate. To me drugs are entirely unnecessary to begin with. And if I choose to use them it’s to enhance an activity, not to replace an activity or be an activity on its own. I’ll be fine.

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            Well that’s not what we were talking about though, was it? We were talking about you judging people based on how they may look while under the influence. That’s ignorant.

            Also, I find this to be amusing:

            To me drugs are entirely unnecessary

            Uh huh, so I guess antibiotics are off the table? I sure hope you don’t die from a minor infection. Hope you never get diabetes or high blood pressure. No cough medicine or allergy medicine either, that’s annoying. I hope you don’t have any serious allergies, because EpiPens sure as shit count as “drugs”.

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      9 months ago

      Yeah, I’m gonna take the peer reviewed studies results that show that ketamine is quite effective with relieving drug resistant depression over this post of yours…

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        I have no dog in this fight, but any studies done on brain chemistry and psychological effects need to be taken with a grain of salt. We know so little about the brain and consciousness that most of the stuff we’re trying and doing are educated guesses.

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          Ketamine is garbage at everything besides temporarily lobotomizing people. It works for it’s many uses because it makes the user stupid. It’s often given to suicidal people, not because it’s a miracle drug, but because it incapacitates them in a safe manner.

          This quote from you contradicts what you’ve just said.

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      9 months ago

      Or, get this, everyone experiences drugs differently and your bad anecdote is irrelevant next to the mountains of evidence and peer reviewed studies.

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    9 months ago

    I had no idea about what ketamine actually is, It seemms most likely to me that it was administered via IV by a MD, no? Wasn’t this manslaughter by the doctor, then?

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    Ketamine’s effects on respiratory shit is serious.

    I almost stopped breathing during an assisted experience because I didn’t realize mixing K with benzos was dangerous.

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      It’s how Elijah McClain died too. Young kid stopped by police for matching the description. They shot him full of ketamine and he died of respiratory failure.

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    9 months ago

    And Elon Musk eats that stuff for breakfast and keeps truckin’ on. Life is unfair.

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    Takes note: Don’t do horse-tranquilizers alone in a bath, check. As a matter of fact don’t do any analgesic/anesthetic with additional drugs in a bath, also check.

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    When Friends was current I wasn’t a fan, the small bits I’d seen mostly annoyed me and - disaffected gothy teens/early twenties guy that I was - I dismissed it as one of those things everyone in the mainstream liked and was therefore obviously garbage.

    Nowadays I’m married to a Friends fan who has begun showing me the series. As we progress through the box set I’m realizing it’s actually pretty good, a couple of the characters actually still annoy me when they’re focused on but there’s a ton else going on that’s pretty entertaining. I’m particularly surprised to be enjoying Chandler so much.

    It’s very sad what Matthew Perry went through in life and how he died, but I’m now belatedly appreciating some of the work he did.

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        you can’t just do that mate, same with Seinfeld, they were filmed in front of a live audience, they had to stop for laughter otherwise you wouldn’t hear what they are saying.

        or are you gonna come out and say Seinfeld isn’t hilarious?