Massive Israeli strike on 'humanitarian zone' tents kills at least 40
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Israel says it hit a Hamas command centre in al-Mawasi, though Palestinian survivors tell MEE there were no fighters in the area

Israeli air strikes on a so-called “humanitarian zone” in southern Gaza’s al-Mawasi killed at least 40 people on Tuesday, according to health authorities in the enclave.

The strikes targeted at least 20 tents sheltering displaced Palestinians in the coastal area near the city of Khan Younis.

Eyewitnesses told AFP that at least five rockets fell in the area, with emergency services saying the strikes created craters up to nine metres deep.

  • Schmoo@slrpnk.net
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    2 months ago

    Alright, I’ll play along.

    Claim:

    The document titled hamas human shields released by NATO Strategic Communications is propaganda.

    Argument:

    Merriam-Webster defines propaganda as-

    the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person

    Let’s break that down. To determine whether the NATO StratCom document hamas human shields meets the criteria for propaganda we need to answer the following:

    Q: Does the item in question contain ideas, information, or rumor?

    A: Without having to verify any claims you can still confidently state that the document contains at least one if not all of these. Statements of opinion can be classified as ideas, and statement of fact can be considered either information or rumor depending upon the amount and veracity of supporting evidence.

    Q: Was the item in question spread for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person?

    A: By posting the document on a public forum for the purpose of defending NATO’s actions, you yourself fulfilled this criteria. Prior to that, NATO StratCom also fulfilled it, as they have an implicit interest in defending the actions of NATO (which this document serves to do)

    For example: I can point to evidence that Tasnim News is propaganda.

    I don’t dispute this.

    • fukhueson@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      The well sourced information presented in the report has not been disputed. You’re audaciously prescribing intent onto me (?), accusing me of presenting this to defend NATO. I’m presenting corroborating well sourced information relevant to the article posted. Nothing you claim is substantiated, other than our shared agreement on Tasnim News.

      This is unfounded opinion, and a means to discredit information critical of Hamas. Going by your chosen definition, AP news presents information and ideas meant to help inform people on a multitude of issues and is thus propaganda. Did you read the next definition Merriam Webster lists? A bit more critical and harder to apply to NATO huh?

      Your answers contain a lot of “can be” and vague allegations. Nothing definite, no evidence. Playing along would be doing what I did, not finding an obtuse definition and applying your personal opinion to it. Like, here’s another one:

      information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

      Can’t really apply that because the information in the report isn’t misleading right? And it’s not promoting a cause, it’s providing strategies to countries in how to deal with human shield situations. Information, that’s it.

      I’m tired of this game. Gonna focus of Harris ripping Trump a new one.

    • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Nice breakdown. I’ve spent some time here and there watching this clown throw themselves bodily side to side to avoid getting the point. Any time someone corners them, they reply with some variation of “I’m bored now, not responding anymore”.

      I think they’re just a pretty proficient troll. For their sake, I hope I’m right as one depressing alternative is this is actually who they are.