• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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      14 days ago

      Can’t speak to starlink specifically, but I know some shittier router brands would often reset to factory defaults every time you updated the firmware. Can easily see starlink doing that with a pushed firmware with the expectation some additional cell phone app would restore the correct settings.

      So they very well might have turned off broadcasting but it got popped back on while they were on shift and it was detected.

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    I think the next step is to call for a criminal investigation into Elon Musk for installing spyware on a US Warship, and get him charged with espionage for the Russians or Chinese.

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      I mean I don’t like the guy either but let’s stick to reality shall we?

      Literally the second paragraph in the article

      Still, the ambassador had nothing on senior enlisted crew members of the littoral combat ship USS Manchester, who didn’t like the Navy’s restriction of onboard Internet access. In 2023, they decided that the best way to deal with the problem was to secretly bolt a Starlink terminal to the “O-5 level weatherdeck” of a US warship.

      So this is one thing he is not responsible for.

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    13 days ago

    #1 African scammer who would sell out “his country” for the price of X premium has a backdoor to all military infra, Xi is getting a chubby

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    To make matters even worse…

    The chiefs found that the Wi-Fi signal coming off the Starlink satellite transceiver couldn’t cover the entire ship, so during a stop in Pearl Harbor, they bought “signal repeaters and cable” to extend coverage.

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      This many chiefs (not rank-and-file, chiefs), putting this much effort into breaking Navy protocol, together, is crazy. And for what? Memes?

      I know deployment at sea can be boring but Jesus fucking Christ, read a damn book or something.

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      Probably not for the reason you think.

      Like, it wouldn’t be patched into anything official

      But it means Musk knew where that ship was 24/7, and I’m pretty sure that’s why Ukraine’s military stopped using it. Musk tipped off Putin to troop movements.

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        Musk tipped off Putin to troop movements

        Wait he did? Can you provide a source for this? I can only find information about him stopping starlink service in crimea

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        13 days ago

        Musk tipped off Putin to troop movements.

        I’m sorry, this made me laugh. Is that a widely accepted conspiracy theory in this community? That Elon Musk is a Russian spy?

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          Did you miss the part where he sent a militarized Cyber Truck to a Russian war criminal, or are you conveniently ignoring it?

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            The Russian war criminal stated he got it from musk but that hasn’t been confirmed and I don’t think we should be taking Kadyrov’s word as truth on anything he’s a literal war criminal.

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          No it just wouldn’t.

          Like, are you imagining a modern US warship doesn’t have internet 24/7?

          This was for porn and maybe streaming services and social media, but mostly porn.

          It wasn’t for any official use, because they have that covered.

          You’re acting like surface ships are submarines…

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            Whether they have wifi on ship or not isn’t the issue. Sometimes, when a ship goes into an operation, they will turn off all signals except passive or directed signals so that they can’t easily be detected. Having a communications signal that isn’t under the control of the ship’s officers is a huge security risk during operations.

            Someone is going to be court martialed over this.

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            Like, are you imagining a modern US warship doesn’t have internet 24/7?

            last I checked, no, they don’t. they had shitty service while in port, and not much else.

            https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2023/12/29/new-in-2024-better-wi-fi-for-sailors/

            fuck mate they only recently started giving their people access ON SHORE.

            https://www.stripes.com/branches/navy/2024-01-25/navy-free-wi-fi-pilot-program-12796438.html

            so no, I don’t think for the average sailor a US warship provides internet access 24/7

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              That article is about wifi for personal use…

              And the second one is about it being free and you’re acting like they didn’t have Internet before then?

              so no, I don’t think for the average sailor a US warship provides internet access 24/7

              Yeah man, you have zero idea what people are talking about about.

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                That article is about wifi for personal use…

                do you think the starlink terminal in the OP article was for military use?? bwahahaha

                Yeah man, you have zero idea what people are talking about about.

                ok buddy, have a nice life.

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                  I said:

                  This was for porn and maybe streaming services and social media, but mostly porn.

                  And on your second reply you said:

                  do you think the starlink terminal in the OP article was for military use?? bwahahaha

                  I stand by my original assessment after your first comment:

                  Yeah man, you have zero idea what people are talking about

                  Because you literally don’t understand the conversation

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          What?

          Surface ships are in constant communication with stuff…

          You can’t just find a signal in the middle of the ocean. Musk can find a starlink signal tho, because he can see what Starlink connects to and it’s gps location.

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            Yeah but if they go on mission and “go dark” then you still have this starlink thing that may or may not be disabled by the person smuggling it on board. It may also be connected to official things if the owner has bad intentions, or if someone else who does finds it and co-opts it.

            There is a lot that could go wrong with unauthorized radio transmission equipment on a warship, and not all of it is obvious.

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              You can’t connect a star link to siprnet.

              The worst a bad actor could do is constantly transmitting location and other combat data.

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                You can’t connect a star link to siprnet.

                Can you connect a computer? Because if so, that same computer can then be connected to the starlink, no?

                I know absolutely nothing about secure government networking, I’m just kind of assuming that something has to be able to connect to both individually and also simultaneously.

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                  sipr is very strict about what it is letting connect to it. Which is why you rarely hear about breaches. Notable incidents like Manning or Snowden both involved usage of physical media, which has been severely restricted since. Plus Snowden was an admin, and not on SIPRNet, but some NSA systems.

                  To add, SIPRNet is entirely isolated from NIPRNet or the Internet.

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            Depends on where your sensors are and how much dispersion the dish has. If you are flying a surveillance plane into the “beam” then you can passively spot the ship.

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            No they actually do go dark sometimes for exactly this reason. Of course there’s always some signal source but it’s the difference between lighting up like a Christmas tree and running a single IR light.

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            You say that like Elon is personally looking at that information.

            Presumably, there would be a large number of people at the company with access to that information, all of whom could be bribed or otherwise persuaded to share it.

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        The reason I think is because any unofficial and potentially unsecured communications access point seems like a vulnerability. If some moron posts a picture using that unofficial access point I’d be worried it could be traced to the ship’s location.

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        Everybody knew were the ship was, because at that time star link usage by area was shown publicly. There was map online that showed all clients online.

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      I feel like every military is full of technological babies acting out security theatre with each other while everything is totally hacked.

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    And I’m sure whoever put it there faced way more harsher penalties than a certain someone who willfully hid highly classified documents in his bathroom for months and lied about it to investigators.

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      According to Navy Times, reduction in rank. According to my experience, likely going to be told they can’t re-enlist after the end of their current term. Likely shipped stateside and in charge of mowing the lawn somewhere.

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      Just like a certain someone who had classified documents that they weren’t even supposed to have without a handler!

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    Between Trump stealing national security secrets and shit like this, it’s honestly shocking the USA hasn’t already become a full-fledged fascist hell-hole. It’s currently only half-fledged.

    But seriously, it must be fucking child’s play for other nations to spy on us with dumb fucking shit like this happening.

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      Oh it’s the same with other countries too. We all regularly have breaches due to the dumbest shit. Just ask the War Thunder community. It’s about time for them to have another one.

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      Hey, give us a chance. We have another election right around the corner and things are really looking good for a solid commitment to fully flegged hell-holism.

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      Ya mean like ppl using classified information in World of Tanks forums to prove a point… more than once?

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    The fact that they didn’t even try to hide their ssid (or at least, the report doesn’t say they did) shows how stupid people can be with cybersecurity.

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      Apparently “STINKY” is the default StarLink SSID (Another Musk joke), so yeah…

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      To be fair, this is a navy ship. If they got the sniffers out and found a hidden one then the officers would be tearing the ship apart to find it right then and there. Hiding in plain view was the better choice.

      To be mean, because these chiefs deserve it, Stinky is apparently the default name. These fucking geniuses left the default name up rather than try to camouflage it as a legitimate network. So I’m pretty sure none of the top part went through their smooth brains. They just assumed it would go unnoticed. Then they assumed they had enough privilege to make the enlisted think this was proper. Forgetting just how pugnacious the middle enlisted can be when they feel something is both unfair and know it’s against regs. (They will make it their life’s mission to humble a leader, and they win more often than not)

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    i was wondering why would you choose such a stupid WiFi access point name, then I read that it was Elon musk that decided that the default starlink AP name has to be that stupid so people would change it

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      My ISP gave me an access point called CSP218891F Which I’m rather worried about.

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    can we just fucking all take a break for a month? just have things go to being boring?

    I attended a fucking ethics of ai talk at my work, only to run into a fucking knockoff nazi complaining about the founding fathers images being generated with black people, and talking about how silicon valley is too left wing.

    either you’re so stupid that you don’t understand it’s a fucking alt-right dog whistle, or you’re a fucking nazi who gets very, very upset if you see a black person in any context. Either way, just shut the fuck up.

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    Just trying to play CoD with THE BOYS back home!! That and running their onlyfans pages. Come on, let them have their fun!