A big blow to the Internet Archive.
  • Chahk@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    4 个月前

    I would like to see these publishers take on OpenAI, Midjourney and others, who basically said that copyright laws should not apply to them because AI would be “impossible” without them having free access to everything.

    • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
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      4 个月前

      I wish people would stop comparing those uses of copyright to nonprofits like Internet Archive

      While I understand AI training exemptions to copyright are controversial, and think most people here would side with IA on ebook lending.

      • coyotino [he/him]@beehaw.orgEnglish
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        4 个月前

        can someone ELI5 what this is, exactly? A program to run on your computer that helps out the Internet Archive? How exactly is it helpful for the Internet Archive?

        • walden@sub.wetshaving.socialEnglish
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          4 个月前

          I was about to say “of course you can trust it, it’s from The Internet Archive”, but the ArchiveTeam slogan is “We Are Going To Rescue Your Shit”. Now I wonder if they’re officially affiliated or not.

          • chaos@beehaw.orgEnglish
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            4 个月前

            Archive Team often uses the Internet Archive to share the things they save and obviously they have a shared goal of saving a copy of everything ever made, but they aren’t the same people. The Archive Team is a vigilante white hat hacker group (well, maybe a little bit grey), and running a Warrior basically means you’re volunteering to be part of their botnet. When a website is going to be shut down, they’ll whip together a script and push it out to the botnet to try to grab as much of the dying site as they can, and when there’s more downtime they have some other projects, like trying to brute force all those awful link shorteners so that when they inevitably die, people can still figure out where it should’ve pointed to.

  • theshatterstone54@feddit.ukEnglish
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    4 个月前

    These publishers’ names are:

    Hachette,

    Penguin Random House,

    Wiley,

    and

    HarperCollins

    Time to never buy any book from them again. I’m moving on to pirating ebooks and audiobooks. Sorry JRR and Christopher Tolkien (may you rest in peace), but I’m not buying any more of your books because they were published by HarperCollins. And I’m also not buying a lot of other books too.

    • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      4 个月前

      I really appreciate the sentiment, but sadly: Individual boycots that aren’t attached to a concertated campaign sadly don’t work. Pirate away, but you can be gertain that these publishers don’t know that you exist.

      • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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        4 个月前

        Maybe, but I am boycotting all capitalist entities the best I can. If I need something I try to buy used or from worker co-ops or to check it out from a library or pirate it.

      • Chahk@beehaw.orgEnglish
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        4 个月前

        you can be certain that these publishers don’t know that you exist

        I think it’s better this way.

      • hydration9806@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        4 个月前

        I would argue this is actually one of the most effective ways to respond. If enough people do it then the company has to react somehow (by pivoting, etc.). Obviously an organized effort would be better, but the “vote with your money” method isn’t anything to ridicule.

        • matcha_addict@lemy.lolEnglish
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          4 个月前

          if enough people do it

          And now will you make sure of that? As the other person mentioned, without a campaign, it’s futile. Most people won’t even hear of this

        • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netEnglish
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          4 个月前

          Name one instance where that worked when it wasn’t connected to a massive public outcry. Do you remember the Call of Duty “boycott”? Ubisoft is still in business, too.

          Also, the majority of book buyers don’t know or care about this verdict.

          Also also: The publishers won’t even be able to correlate the “lost” revenue of individual people boycotting with their shitty behavior. It’s not “Oh, we sold 1000 less copies of this book than expected, because we fought the archive.” It’s more: “Our predictions were off by 1000 copies. No idea if that’s because of some tangible factor, or just ‘noise’.”

          • hydration9806@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            4 个月前

            Encapsulated in that “etc.” in my first response is “going out of business”. This type of response would be way too difficult to get actual numbers for, but it has worked countless times. Just look at all the businesses that are no longer in business at all, they went out of business because they were no longer earning enough to stay viable.

            It doesn’t matter if the company connects the loss to a specific action (although it would be nice) since the end result is the same, after enough time.

            Lastly, I just don’t like the idea of my dollars being used by a company to further an agenda that I don’t want to support.

  • far_university190@feddit.orgEnglish
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    4 个月前

    On the other hand, authors have a right to be compensated in connection with the copying and distribution of their original creations.

    No author lose any compensation, only publisher. Publisher not have that right.

  • SplashJackson@lemmy.caEnglish
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    4 个月前

    “Just” lost it? I could have sworn I saw this news days ago, but “just” makes me feel like this happened minutes ago