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I’m going to start pirating again and if I ever get caught up I’ll just inform them I’m training AI models.
Just training Natural Intelligence…
The current generation of data hungry AI models with energy requirements of a small country should be replaced ASAP, so if copyright laws spur innovation in that direction I am all for it.
Yeah, but you are not rich, so you will suffer the consequences
Sounds like they need better bootstraps.
Or at least a business model.
Hey, me either. I guess I can steal too.
I stand by my opinion that learning systems training on copyrighted materials isn’t the problem, it’s companies super eager to replace human workers with automation (or replace skilled workers with cheaper, unskilled workers). The problem is, every worker not working is another adult (and maybe some kids) not eating and not paying rent.
(And for those of you soulless capitalists out there, people without food and shelter is bad. That’s a thing we won’t tolerate and start looking at you lean-and-hungry-like when it happens. That’s what gets us thinking about guillotines hungry for aristocrats.)
In my ideal world, everyone would have food, shelter, clothes, entertainment and a general middle-class lifestyle whether they worked or not, and intellectual-property temporary monopolies would be very short and we’d have a huge public domain. I think the UN wants to be on the same page as me, but the United States and billionaires do not.
All we’d have to worry about is the power demands of AI and cryptomining, which might motivate us to get pure-hydrogen fusion working. Or just keep developing solar, wind, geothermal and tidal power until everyone can run their AC and supercomputer.
“WE’RE NOT A VIABLE BUSINESS! BWAH!”
Oh. Oh no. Such a shame.
Shut it down then and stop stealing other peoples shit
“waaaaah please give us exemption so we can profit off of stolen works waaaaaaaahhhhhh”
pirated works 🙃
I’ve never made any money from pirating. Or at least I wouldn’t have if I would have ever done such a thing.
So I got a crazy idea - hear me out - how about we just abolish copyright completely, for everyone?
I mean, it works in China pretty well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_in_China
Looks like there are still copyright laws in China. What are you on about?
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. China ratified and adheres to the Berne Convention. It has the same shitty Berne copyright laws as most other countries.
1886
Yeah, a bit out of date, huh?
Can’t we do a new Berne Convention?
No complaints from me. A lot of people here are saying abolish copyright entirely, which I think goes too far. I liked the original U.S. model, which was 19 years with an option to renew for another 19. That enables things like authors being able to profit from their book sales without worrying about a rival publishing company publishing their book at the same time but also gives a realistic time frame for that to be profitable.
China just ignores violations of foreign copyright by their industries. They enforce Chinese copyrights.
So say the operators of piracy websites. I’m in favor of media piracy being legalized.
I don’t know for sure if you’re making the case that media piracy is more or less equivalent to AI being trained on stolen material (I may be reading that wrong)- but I’d like to add that media piracy isn’t making money on the backs of hard working people and forming a dystopia in which human art is drowned out by machine hallucinations.
In any case I agree that piracy should be legalized, or rather, that we rethink our approach to media availability and challenge the power and wealth of producers.
Sounds a lot like a “you” problem, OpenAI.
This headline sounded familiar. The article’s from 8 months ago, folks.
Oh, do you support copyright abolition, then?
Now now, I am sure what he meant was they can’t make enough profit to bring billions for its shareholders
Good artists copy, great artists steal. If I think even Steve Jobs mentioned having in mind their visit in Xerox Parc research lab
Wait, steal = taking away from the original owner
Meaning, good artist copy, while great artist display anticompetitive behavior?
Oh yeah, Picasso. The great artist who was an abusive guy who beat her mistress to paint her crying (The Weeping Woman / Dora Maar).
I only want to know how did you bump on this off topic
Beyond the legal aspect, AI training on artists’ works poses an ethical problem. And when it comes to ethics, I think we can avoid quoting Picasso,
