China using families as 'hostages' to quash Uyghur dissent abroad
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Refugees and activists tell the BBC intimidation tactics are tearing apart Uyghur communities overseas.
  • MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    I think this flies a bit too far in the other direction. China is totalitarian. It is not a democracy. It is also increasingly antagonizing nations abroad. I think it is valid to consider it a threat if you are any other nation, period.

    Edit: Kinda like Russia

    • fishtacos@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      So… No, it’s not like Russia at all. But that nuance is too long for me to explain right now. Short answer is that Russia is capitalist, and China is 50/50 capitalist/socialist, depending on definitions, and yeah a lot of nuance.

      But China is run by the people, their authoritarian politics keeps their billionaires and induatry in check. Their local politics is a negotiation with the national politics.

      And… How exactly is China antagonizing nations abroad? Because a lot of countries are choosing to work with China because they AREN’T antagonizing them as much as America and Europe. So… The reality is the opposite.

      • MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        I mean, if you haven’t been there or don’t know anyone from there you could pretend they are a democracy, but they are authoritarian like Russia is authoritarian. Long term they will seek a wider swath to be authoritarian over.

        • fishtacos@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          And the argument from ignorance continues.

          All I have to say is read more and be online less.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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              1 year ago

              Newsflash, you can find people in any country who don’t like their government, and you’ll obviously see these people over represented in the population that left the country. The fallacy of your argument is to conclude that the people you know hold the opinion of the majority of people in China. I made plenty of friends who from China in university, and most of them went back after graduating. Vast majority of people in China support their government and are proud of their country. Even western polling admits this.

              • UFO@programming.dev
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                1 year ago

                Cool story. China is still authoritarian.

                China is a one party system with a “president” for life. Fancy that up all you want: still authoritarian with a dictator.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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                  1 year ago

                  You used so many words to tell us that you don’t know anything about Chinese political system and expose yourself as being confidently wrong. Maybe spend some time educating yourself instead of flaunting your ignorance in public.

                  • UFO@programming.dev
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                    1 year ago

                    If you thought that was “so many words” reality is too complicated for you.

                    “The Government of the People’s Republic of China is a unitary Marxist–Leninist one-party authoritarian political system under the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).”

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_China

                    I look forward to you correcting that wiki page lol