as a person that came from the 3rd world country and new in fediverse environment, i genuinely would like to know about this.

edit: thanks for the replies! sorry, i literally don’t know the reason since i’m not a western lol. twitter/x is too biased especially when musk openly supports trump so i came here and seeing fediverse is mostly are harris or biden (when he’s still up for the candidate) supporters. don’t know about reddit tho, i only use reddit as a forum for linux and programming stuff.

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    I like it this way. It’s not an “echo chamber” because we do have some interesting liberal vs leftist discussions. I think I’ve already heard quite enough conservative nonsense though; they aren’t entitled to my consideration forever.

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    I point your attention wolfballs.

    I may not agree with most of the perspective, but the author’s opposition to censorship is admirable.

    Yeah free speech isn’t always free, but I’d rather the freedom to read things I disagree with. Others may disagree though.

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    There is a whole separate lemmyverse full of conservatives and pedophilia. They are defederated from every sane instance.

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    A few exist, they’re just defederated from most Lemmy instances. Its Freedom of Association at work, the only acceptable form of censorship.

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    Lemmy in general is developed and maintained by Communists, for starters. FOSS in general, especially FOSS social media, is a Leftist answer to already existing Capitalist Social Media.

    There are right-wing instances like Exploding Heads, which is a Nazi instance, but they are defederated from every major instance.

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      FOSS in general … and FOSS social media … is a leftist answer to capitalist social media …

      This is how you can tell me you’re a troll and know nothing of the history of personal computing.

      [Tried to approximate the quote, couldn’t copy and paste on mobile]

      Edit: not sure if you were sarcastic or not, based on other comments. Either my instance or my mobile browser makes it hard to see everything in a coherent way.

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    I think the hard-right people have mostly self-exiled to their own echo chambers like truth.social and other places that are Donald-used-and-approved. I think he’s also active on Twitter again now that Musk has destroyed all content moderation on the platform. They follow their great leader and unless and until he starts posting his demagoguery on Lemmy they have no interest and no reason to come here.

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    The biggest Trump supporting Fediverse server (truth.social) actually disabled federation from the get-go. It’s still just a Mastodon fork, but they could federate at any time! Plus, if you have an account on there, you’re legally entitled to the source code of their web service.

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        Yeah conservatives even more militant about excluding people lol

        Ban hammer used way more often on alt right communities. Ducking snow flakes haha

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    They’re here, you can find them if you look in the right places - however, most fediverse admins are technically apt and left leaning so Trump bullshit often gets folks banned and, when it doesn’t, they usually get a very negative response.

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    There are plenty of Trump supporters here. Every comment from someone who implies one shouldn’t vote for Harris because of the Israel-Gaza war is likely someone trying to suppress Democrat turnout. Single issue voting is the only way the GOP ever win.

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      You: “Hitler can’t take back office, but we do need to continue the concentration camps. People who don’t want concentration camps are directly supporting Hitler.”

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            Have you stopped to consider that labelling someone as the “enemy” is parlance mostly engaged in by conservatives? Progressives don’t usually think in those terms. To a progressive, you might be ignorant, misinformed, misguided, deluded, xenophobic, racist, or engaging in bad faith, but you are rarely the “enemy.” Even Trump himself although perhaps though of as an “enemy of democracy,” is not a personal enemy. Your response using that metaphor serves to highlight the conservative mind set of making it personal, and harboring an anger so deep that political disagreement is grounds for personal animosity and even violence.

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              Some people cause so much harm that, fuck it, they’re enemies. It doesn’t matter that Adolf McHitlerface had a terrible childhood. Overwhelming violence was a legitimate mean to put an end to his action.

              You won’t be able to fix everyone, and not everybody with a terrible life becomes a fascist.

              Trump doesn’t care that you have an open mind and are willing to try to change him. Give him the chance, and he’ll let you know what he thinks of your good nature.

              I’m not dehumanizing him. He’s not the antichrist. He’s in fact terribly human. But not all humans deserve rehabilitation, especially when they’re actively causing harm. When a terrorist shoots people at a concert, it’s absolutely OK to kill them to prevent innocent deaths.

              It’s OK to take a stance, sometimes. And you don’t always need to be very civil about it.

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              I like how you’re so high up on your horse that not only does is your team too good to have enemies, you can doublethink away any use of the term as impersonal.

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                The US had a 2x mortality rate of Canada. 6x higher compared to South Korea, 10x of Japan the first two years of Covid. Even going with the lowest number, about 500,000 Americans could have survived with even marginally competent leadership. One that might not have…

                1. Disbanded the Pandemic response team Obama set up.
                2. Undercut the messaging from the CDC because Trump couldn’t handle Fauci having a higher approval rating than him.
                3. Spewed constant misinformation about everything from bleach, sunlight to ivermectin while professionals were desperately trying to do their job.
                4. Intentionally dragging his feet on the relief effort because someone told him that it was hitting the cities first and the Democrats would be most affected.
                5. Goddamn masks. All he had to do was go on TV and tell his little cultists to wear the damn things, and we could have prevented so much of the deaths that came from the original strain/Delta. (Not Omicron)

                … Hitler killed less Americans than Trump did. That’s just facts.

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                  The “disbanding” of the pandemic response team is largely misrepresented. I don’t disagree with the rest, or see how it’s at all relevant to the current conversation.

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      The Gaza posts always make me laugh because they completely ignore that Trump would just glass Gaza.

      The only reason Trump hasn’t showed how terrible he’d be on Gaza is because he isn’t president right now.

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      My brother in christ you cannot compromise on fucking genocide. Liberals like you are so fucking scared of the orange man that you are willing to let hundreds of thousands die without even asking for better.

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              Harris is materially supporting a genocide and uncritically parroting the rhetoric of israeli fascist. I am telling people not to vote for her because she too is a fascist. Should she stop supporting this slaughter then I would happily encourage everyone to vote for her

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                America is, unfortunately, a two party system. If not enough people vote for Harris, Trump wins. Period. There are no options besides Harris and Trump, and only one of them has talked about how Israel should literally nuke Gaza (I’ll let you take a guess on which one it was.)

                I see your idealism, and I agree that any amount of genocide is unacceptable, but letting Trump win will just accelerate the genocide in Gaza, expand it to the West Bank (more noticeably, anyways), and likely start new genocides here in America. I’ve been writing to my representatives and sending them articles about the atrocities being committed by the IDF and imploring them to do something about it…but I’m not dumb enough to withhold my vote from the Centrists and allow the Fascists to take over.

                I repeat: withholding your vote from Harris is effectively a vote for Trump because America is a two party system, and there’s only two options to pick from.

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                  I’ll withhold my vote from trump then I guess. Fascism isn’t something you can vote away, its roots are entirely systemic and the Democrats have no desire to do away with it anyway. People being scared of fascism is the basically their best argument for getting elected these days. It’s very useful for them.

                  Besides, what incentive do the Democrats have to change their policy if they won’t lose a single voter. I’m not so naive that I believe politicians in either party determine policy based off morality.

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              Whichever candidate is willing to end the genocide not that I’d believe trump if he said he would. I’ll vote third party if necessary

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                Harris is working to end the genocide right now. She’s fighting for a permanent ceasefire and two state solution. That might not be your preferred way to resolve the conflict, but it would stop the carnage and give Palestine more leverage to negotiate on the world stage.

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                  Yeah… no. If she was working towards that she would have ended all weapon supplies to Israel. What she is doing is putting on a face and pretending to care.

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            The Americans are lost. Their version of democracy has collapsed over their own heads. In a way, they deserve this shit. If they put all this crappy energy into unitedly voting for third candidate, it just might work. But nope, gotta wake up every day and go online to accuse people who refuse a second holocaust of being tRuMp SupPorTers.

            Free thought is dead in America and the Americans killed it.

            Go ahead downvote me to fucking hell, haters.

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        It’s so hard to take people seriously who talk like turbo redditors. My BrOtHeR iN lOw KeY cHrIsT.

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          Thats fair but it’s probably just a generational or regional divide. For instance, I personally can’t take people who use that form of text capitalization seriously. No shame though I just associate it with 7th grade

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        Somehow people think that pointing out that anyone who isn’t Trump are pro-genocide means that Trump somehow isn’t pro-genocide.

        Like you’re not allowed to think about two problems at once. Or that there are no other options…

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          I get that but I’m not gonna criticize trump for being pro-genocide bc we can’t do shit fuck about that. Atleast with Harris there is a slim chance of changing her position on the matter by witholding votes and being vocal about it.

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            Yes. Exactly! The reason people keep bitching about Harris and genocide is because they hope something might actually happen about it.

            Biden was an absolutely terrible candidate (that I was going to vote for) and probably the only person who could lose against Trump. Because people constantly bitched about how bad he was they changed the candidate.

            Harris doesn’t get to use Trump as a not-as-bad-as screen, and given that we don’t have the option of not voting for her, everyone should be applying every other available form of pressure to discourage her from enabling genocide or otherwise maintaining the status quo.

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              Now is not the time. After she is elected, get out there and put the pressure on her. But it makes no sense to risk the fate of the entire country on this.

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                This will come as an absolute shock to you. You can vote for someone you criticize…

                Which party was it that dogpiles on anyone that dares criticize their shitty candidates again?

                The point of saying it before the election is that the expectations are set.

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                  I can understand that you can vote for someone you criticize. But it’s obviously implied that you’re withholding your vote unless the administration changes their tune, which means you’re not voting for someone you’re criticizing at the moment. If not, then you have nothing to pressure with.

                  I am all for constructive criticism but I still don’t think this is an effective means to accomplish getting this point across.

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                What kind of democracy is one where you can’t even criticize the candidate because “it’s not the right time” right before the elections when the candidates are forced to make changes to make the public happy? After they are in power, it’s another 4 years of BS, and by the third year the same cycle begins and you are not allowed to criticize your candidate.

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        If all you’re voting on is how they respond to Gaza, Harris isn’t great but Trump is exponentially worse. He’s openly said that Israel should continue what they’re doing. In fact, in every metric of comparison Trump is exponentially worse. It’s not that we’re scared of Trump, it’s that he is so much worse in every regard.

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          Yeah no shit but im not gonna settle for genocide. Slower genocide is still genocide and if I can do anything to prevent the murder of hundreds of thousands of people I will do so. I genuinely believe that witholding my vote and protesting has a chance of altering Harris’ position here.

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            What good does altering Harris’s position do if she doesn’t win?

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              If she wins without ceasing material support for actual genocide then we have failed as a people. Politicans are beholden to us not the other way around. It is our demands they should listen to not the demands of raytheon, boeing, palantir, and others that uphold their wealth and power.

              Thats not even mentioning the fact that not supporting genocide basically guarantees her win. This is an incredible popular position that many many people passionately care about

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                But what good is punishing Harris by withdrawing your vote? What does this even do except inch everything closer to Trump - who will make the issue you’re prioritizing, worse?

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                  It tells her that she might fucking lose if she doesn’t change her stance. Do you really think a politician will do anything for the people if they can win without doing it? How do you think politics works? Asking nicely? I’m exerting political pressure not “punishing her”

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            We cant stop a genocide in the future if were too busy fighting one in our backyard. Our system is fucked, we are forced to play the game, so we have pick our battles.

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    I’ve been accused of being a Trump supporter multiple times because of comments on Gaza… as I read top comment of a dumbass calling people who denounce Harris as confirmed Trump supporters…

    Anyways it’s the same in practically any niche technology, you just tend to see more leftists because they happen to be the ones creating and using said technology.

    There’s still a large portion of Republicans who use cable/satellite TV, but don’t have internet besides their cellphone plan. They’d only come if lemmy became a popular de facto social platform like Facebook.

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      as I read top comment of a dumbass calling people who denounce Harris as confirmed Trump supporters…

      i really hate this, same thing also happened to me in my country. i’m hating on the “B” candidate and people would assume i’m “A” supporter. i don’t believe any politician at all.

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    1. There probably are some right-wing instances, but I’m guessing they all got defederated for… reasons…

    2. Conservatives already have their own platforms e.g. truth social, twitter, 4chan, others

    3. The very format of Lemmy is more egalitarian. For example, it gives an enormous amount of power to individual users to filter out unwanted content, and decentralizes content moderation over a variety of instances. This doesn’t appeal to some right-wing ideologues who seem to value more hierarchical, centralized systems. Basically, Lemmy is more democratic (or has the potential to be more democratic) than other platforms.