In her first interview as the Democratic presidential nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris told CNN it was imperative to reach a ceasefire deal in Gaza, but made it clear that she would not alter President Joe Biden’s policy in the region.
However, when pressed on whether she would stop sending weapons to Israel she told Bash, “No, we have to get a deal done, Dana. We have to get a deal done.”
“Adopting an arms embargo against Israel’s assault on Gaza is not only a moral imperative but also a strategic move to defeat Trump and MAGA extremism. It is difficult for the Democratic candidate to champion democracy while arming Netanyahu’s authoritarian regime” reads a recent letter to Harris from the coalition Not Another Bomb.
Recent polling has repeatedly demonstrated that Democratic voters overwhelmingly support the conditioning of U.S. military aid. A Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) survey from March found that 52% of Americans want the U.S. to halt weapons shipments to Israel in order to force a ceasefire. 62% of Biden voters said “The US should stop weapons shipments to Israel until Israel discontinues its attacks on the people of Gaza,” while only 14% disagreed with the statement.
The numbers from a June CBS News poll were even higher, with more than 60% of all voters and almost 80% of Democrats saying the U.S. shouldn’t send Israel weapons.
“The real question should have been, ‘When are you going to start enforcing U.S. law as it relates to arms shipments’ because what we are doing right now, with this United States policy, is in violation of not just international law, but also of American law, “said the Arab Center’s Yousef Munayyer in an interview with Democracy Now in response to the CNN segment. “Vice-President Harris made it clear in other parts of her interview that she wants to be a prosecutor. She wants to enforce the law, but Israel is clearly getting an exception from the Harris campaign.”
As much as I hate to admit this, I don’t think this will change my opinion on her. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s incredibly fucked up that they continue to give them the weapons they use to murder civilians. But I also know that pretty much every president that has been elected since Israel has existed as a country would do exactly the same. The vast majority of politicians are spineless when it comes to Israel and always will be, regardless of party affiliation. No matter who gets elected it will always be the same answer with varying degrees of severity. And even if Harris wanted to do something about it, do you really think she would say anything new until she knew for a fact she was going to win? She’d get ostracized by the majority of her own party and potentially lose a bunch of those fancy endorsements she just received.
I’m not saying it’s right. In fact, it’s so fucked up it makes my blood boil. I’m just saying that politicians are fucking cowards and always will be.
But I also know that pretty much every president that has been elected since Israel has existed as a country would do exactly the same.
Your knowledge is incorrect. Please seek out better sources.
Reagan said Israel is carrying out a holocaust, and stopped them with a single phonecall. Bush Sr. stopped them by threatening arms embargo as well. Eisenhower and Ford couldn’t stomach their bloodlust either and called them off.
Israel is a client state of the US empire, it’s best to think of it as the 51st state. They do what they’re told.
That’s what people forget, all it takes is one phone call from a US Pres. Israel is nobody.
all it takes is one phone call from a US Pres
What an amazingly simplistic view of geopolitics.
Israel is a nuclear client state. One overzealous president is all it takes to launch a nuke at Pakistan and cause a global calamity.
Pakistan? You mean Iran?
Imagine being worse than Reagan 💀
What does trump say? Ultimately that’s the only person you need to compare Harris to.
Pretty similar, promising to negotiate a deal to end the slaughter asap. But there’s no reason to believe any candidate wants to end the genocide.
If you’re an American who pays for the killing, you should act in solidarity with the victims and their relatives. There should be an #uncommitted group in your state, see what they recommend.
So I’m not American, I don’t have a say in this election, but what the fuck do you mean “who pays for the killing”? Get the fuck out of here with this guilt tripping bull shit. The common man doesn’t have enough power to raise their wage by dollar, you think they actually have a say in who their government sends weapons to? Honestly, nobody (of the common people) wants this shit, but other than voting what do you expect them to do? Sure they could vote for trump instead of Harris but as you say they have a similar stance on this topic. So if there is not difference in this topic, they need to vote based on other important topics. The whole “don’t vote for anyone” tactic is fucking stupid and at this point I’m 99% convinced are propaganda bots trying to reduce the Dems votes. I suspect either funded by Russia to cause instability within the US or by parasitic corporations worried the democrats will reduce their profits slightly.
The average American has far more power over the genocide than most everyone else in the world, including Palestinians. Any act of resistance an American makes is amplified.
My point is though they only have two options, and both of those options are happy to continue funding war crimes. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Yet people on this platform like to make out that generic mr smith underpaid mechanic in the middle of the US is directly causing children to be murdered. Protesting is the only option but let’s be honest, that just gets ignored. So instead of these relentless posts about Harris continuing funding, why not try to focus on topics where the 2 parties differ to give the people an idea about which party might be best for them in other ways?
As you said, protest is the only option. One form of protesting is not voting, or voting third party.
There’s a very obvious third option that you’re ignoring.
You can’t even imagine it. It’s fascinating, really.
I didn’t expect this at all and am deeply hurt.
I really thought the handpicked second most powerful person in the country would differ significantly in policies from the people who handpicked her.
Oh cool, look the Democrats are trying to suppress the vote in Michigan.
80% of her base wants to stop sending weapons to Israel. Where the fuck is democracy?
You mean 40% of Democrats want to decrease it, while the swing voters she needs to win an election are the most likely to support sending current or greater levels of support.
If those “swing” voters care that much about bombing gaza then they’re going to be voting for trump regardless of kamala’s position.
80% in terms of people, but not 80% in terms of money.
Politicians are in the business of selling votes. But votes can only be sold when they are received.
As long as everyone knows that a vote for Democrat or Republican means your vote is sold to AIPAC.
80% in terms of what those people say but not 80% in terms of people who are willing act on their stated desires. So really it’s ~80% that don’t care according to their likely actions.
In history books. This is oligarchy.
no US president can ojbect to israel. they’re the one choosing them in first place
They can easily declare AIPAC a foreign lobby group and prevent them spending money in out elections
They did it to RT. They can do it to Israel. And Saudi Arabia while they’re at it
It sucks we have to vote on people instead of policies.
Blue MAGA thinks they hold the reins
Threads like these are GREAT for discovering the fascists/russian plants in the comments so I can block them
I prefer blocking genocidal maniacs like you.
Idiot or troll?
Either way, no loss for me.
all these fascists who are against…
*checks notes*
…funding genocide?
You’re drawing some pretty premature conclusions from incomplete information. No, I’m against genocide too. But there are some in this thread who would pretend Harris is more pro-genocide than Trump, which is demonstrably false.
i mean there aren’t any pro-fascism comments here at time of me posting this so maybe this thread isn’t the resource you think it is
nobody in this thread is pretending harris is more pro-genocide than trump
i have literally never seen a comment on the fediverse that implied that
It is possible you already have them blocked.
Do you see the comment about Harris being a worse candidate than Hillary? No sane adult would say such a thing except as deliberate anti-democratic propaganda.
Why don’t you respond directly to the comment that you have a problem with so that there isn’t any confusion?
Why would I engage with a known troll rather than blocking them?
Everyone’s a troll. Its Trollworld baby
No sane adult would say such a thing except as deliberate anti-democratic propaganda.
Jesus christ, sit down child. Your political opponents are not all paid shills out to destroy your wonderfully important institutions because they are opportunistic nihilists.
i mean yeah i did but i don’t see how that relates to harris being more pro-genocide than trump
Because the intent of the sentiment is to get people to not vote for her, which would increase the likelihood of a Trump presidency, which would ultimately result in more genocide.
You’re drawing some pretty premature conclusions from incomplete information.
But there are some in this thread who would pretend Harris is more pro-genocide than Trump, which is demonstrably false.
Is it? She’s the one who is the VP of the organization funding the genocide. I don’t recall Trump directly funding genocide, even going out of his way to circumvent US law. Maybe he did, wouldn’t put it past him, but given the information I have at least, Kamala and Joe Biden are demonstrably, empirically more pro-genocide than Trump, who remember, has already been president in the past.
Literally the entire political analysis of liberals on this issue is based on nothing but vibes. Trump is worse than Biden/Kamla on genocide because he has more bad guy molecules in his brain of some dumb shit.
Not Russian, but go ahead and block me
I see you didn’t dispute being a fascist
Wow, what a missed layup. Guess she wants to lose all of her goodwill? Fucking strange.
“We will adhere to US law.”
That’s all she needed to say.
There’s a lot of Jewish voters and donors.
Christian Zionists far outnumber Jewish Zionists and even Jewish people in America.
It’s still millions of likely voters. Many who retired to places like Florida where just a few votes could decide the election.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/05/11/the-size-of-the-u-s-jewish-population/
That page literally doesn’t reference likely voters at all. Do you just somehow think all Jewish people are a monolith? There are plenty of Jewish people against the genocide
We know for a fact that there are hundreds of thousands of likely voters in each swing state that would enthusiasticly vote for Harris if she changed position on Israel
Jews have statistical higher voter turnout than other groups. They’re overwhelmingly Democrats. Many have bought into the Israel criticism = antisemitism. Israel has a lot of influence and can easily help the Republicans win. There are rich Jews who donate to the Democrats. The Democrats also have down ballot races to worry about.
You get that’s general findings from a global poll right? When you look at US polling on the issue, it’s pretty clear
Recent polling has repeatedly demonstrated that Democratic voters overwhelmingly support the conditioning of U.S. military aid. A Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) survey from March found that 52% of Americans want the U.S. to halt weapons shipments to Israel in order to force a ceasefire. 62% of Biden voters said “The US should stop weapons shipments to Israel until Israel discontinues its attacks on the people of Gaza,” while only 14% disagreed with the statement.
The numbers from a June CBS News poll were even higher, with more than 60% of all voters and almost 80% of Democrats saying the U.S. shouldn’t send Israel weapons.
In case you ignored the polls from the article. Here’s another:
An April 2024 poll of likely voters across the U.S. found that 30% strongly supported withholding military funds to Israel until the attacks on Gaza stop; another 25% somewhat supported that conditional aid policy.
Below we asked all respondents what minimum combination of policies would secure (for non-Biden voters) or solidify (for Biden voters) a vote for Biden for President. A third or more voters in every state except Minnesota said a lasting ceasefire was among the minimum policies that would be needed to secure solidify their votes
Although voters are split on whether they approve or disapprove of Biden’s handling of the war, the vast majority (≥ ~75%) across all states still support an immediate and permanent ceasefire. Only a small minority of voters, from 11.2% to 16.1% in Minnesota and Pennsylvania, respectively, strongly approve of the President’s approach on Gaza. Of those, the vast majority in each state (≥64%) strongly support an immediate and permanent ceasefire. That is to say, a change in approach would not lose those votes, but staying on the current path risks doing so.
Seems pretty clear what voters want.
Democrats will do anything to lose an election
Never underestimate a Democrat’s ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
Fucking Everton of politics
Controlled opposition. That’s all they are.
I did not think it possible for Democrats to run a worse candidate than 2016 Hillary.
You have to be on crack to think this.
Lol get out of here
Joe was worse. Not even hardcore liberals could pretend to be excited for him.
While maybe not the original intent, his whole candidacy was based on “I’m not Trump.” That’s not a strategy that can work twice.
Hell it barely worked the first time.
Honestly, Trump is doing so badly right now, that I think it WILL work this time around, too. And it’s great because with that strategy, there’s nothing to be held accountable for except fantasies.
The AIPAC queen can’t get enough of headless toddlers and rape squads
I have little hope that Biden, Harris, or (obviously) Trump will actually change course on the US’s Israel/Palestine policy—but to be fair, we shouldn’t expect the vice president to openly say she would reverse the current president’s foreign policies even if she intended to.
Exactly. If she wanted to do anything about it she wouldn’t be able to even mention it. If she said anything that isn’t pro Israel, she’d just piss off Israel and a large amount of her own party. Politicians have always been cowards when it comes to Israel and always will be.
Why not? She’s not the Secretary of State and she’s not setting foreign policy like Dick Cheney.
Why must she adhere to Biden’s policies?
That $5 million in AIPAC cash says she must adhere to Biden’s/Israel’s policies.
This. It wouldn’t surprise me if it comes out years later she was basically forced in this position because of ongoing peace negotiations. She’s not stupid, her staff isn’t stupid, bring pro no refugee murder is a very obvious stance. Israel, for whatever fucking reason, has us by the balls. Hopefully one day that changes and they’re just out there in their own like every other asshole. Also BB knows the more fucked up shit he does during the election cycle the better chances he’ll get the guy he wants in. Watch peace suddenly be an option when it’s clear Harris is going to claim victory.
Israel, for whatever fucking reason, has us by the balls.
They don’t. Their military is entirely dependent upon America. Israel is essentially America’s 51rst state. I mean, Congress even passed a law to treat IDF soldiers as if they were American soldiers.
Not changing the current policy of arming the ones doing the mass Refugee murder isn’t really pro no Refugee murder. Israel can continue getting away with the ongoing genocide precisely because we are still giving them unconditional military aid. Conditional military aid is the strong arm option to reign Israel in and force them to accept the US ceasefire proposal that passed through the UN, passed, and has been accepted by every party except Israel
No I would actually expect a candidate to talk about what they intend, and whatever excuse there’s not to sounds silly.
I don’t really understand what weapons our government is sending Isreal. Is it that we just aren’t canceling their contracts with our weapons manufacturers? Or we arent banning exports of weapons?
Our government doesn’t actually make weapons, we give contracts to companies to make them and have limits on who else can buy. Isreal doesn’t need our hand-me-downs.
Here’s a good article explaining our military aid to Israel
Thank you! That was an informative article. It’s like we are giving them Raytheon gift cards every year. This makes sense, as it’s the military industrial complex doing what it do. More blood for the blood gods, etc.
What I think is interesting from the break down is how they are supposed only use it for defense, but then when we go “hey I don’t think you are using that for defense!” We don’t stop handing out the gift cards.
Also when we were struggling to get congressional approval to give them more gift cards, we let them raid our munitions cookie jar we had been storing with them in case we needed it for the past 40 years.
It sucks, but I can understand why the US is so reluctant to give up their only long term ally in the region, who’s supported us in our unreasonable conflicts against immense global backlash. We also use them to funnel more taxpayer money to military contractors which are spread all over the US, financially benefiting many states in the process.
As always it’s all about the money.
And it’ll be one of her worst decisions of this campaign
Quick show them more of Walz, they like him!
It’s not like she has a choice. The defense contractors call all the shots and they want to keep the arms flowing. We vote for the promise of maybe getting a small piece of that pie to fund healthcare for the elderly, maybe, they’ll increase military spending anyways.
Not supplying weapons to Israel is not one of the options on the ballot.
