• HowMany@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Well first of all it gives the president the abilty to shut the border down until they figure out what the hell is going on

    Where in the bill is this stated?

    The whole thing seeks to solve the alleged border crisis - a right wing myth…

    I asked for specific wording clarification. While I appreciate the editorial, the source (you) is questionable.

    It sounds as if you don’t really know what you’re talking about even though you’re making this super emotional appeal but it’s not backed up by fact one. And that’s even after I asked for facts.

    Your stance in no way influenced my thinking. What’s more it makes me suspicious of you.

    • HelluvaBottomCarter [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Your stance in no way influenced my thinking

      “It’s everyone’s responsibility to talk me out of being a dipshit and if they refuse to waste time, that just proves me right. Oh and I want a detailed report on the bi-partisan border bill on my desk before my bed time or you’re extra wrong.”

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        The president being able to shut down the border (we all know which one btw) is literally the centerpiece of the bill that got the most attention and they flat out deny it. I guess i should have dusted off my MLA formatting guide a properly cited my post on the shit posting site

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      Because you don’t want to look at the bill because you’re racist and hate immigrants, multiple people have responded with multiple sources including the bill itself.

      Now it’s already very clear to everyone here that your “stance” wouldn’t be changed by anything and you’re simply masking your apathy and racism by feigning scepticism, but are you even going to try and come back here and pretend otherwise? I highly doubt it, but hopefully your brilliant truth-seeking mind will prove me wrong!

    • Doubledee [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      M’Liege, I have retrieved yon bill for ye.

      improve-society

      “(3) ACTIVATIONS OF AUTHORITY.—

      “(A) DISCRETIONARY ACTIVATION.—The Secretary may activate the border emergency authority if, during a period of 7 consecutive calendar days, there is an average of 4,000 or more aliens who are encountered each day.

      “(B) MANDATORY ACTIVATION.—The Secretary shall activate the border emergency authority if—

      “(i) during a period of 7 consecutive calendar days, there is an average of 5,000 or more aliens who are encountered each day; or

      “(ii) on any 1 calendar day, a combined total of 8,500 or more aliens are encountered.

      Now you may say, “Aha, we have you hyperbolic hexbears now, it clearly says that the president doesn’t just get to shut it down until they figure out ‘what the hell is going on’!”

      smuglord

      Which is correct. What it does is tie their hands such that they must shut the border down when an arbitrary number is reached, so they don’t have to actually do anything and can plead their powerlessness when it happens. After all it’s not up to them, it’s just a mandate of a conservative law… that they want to pass.

    • TheDoctor [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Well first of all it gives the president the abilty to shut the border down until they figure out what the hell is going on

      Where in the bill is this stated?

      Biden said of the bill, “It would give me, as President, a new emergency authority to shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed. And if given that authority, I would use it the day I sign the bill into law.”

      source

      To anyone saying to just go read the bill, I’d love for you to point me to an article that even names the name of the bill in question, let alone links to the full text of the bill. I just spent 10 minutes searching for it and I’m giving up because I have better shit to do.

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        Biden said of the bill, “It would give me, as President, a new emergency authority to shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed. And if given that authority, I would use it the day I sign the bill into law.”

        Jeeesus, what a fucking scoundrel. Literally just a Republican at this point.

        • TheDoctor [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          Right? I didn’t know he’d said he would use the power like that before I’d read the article and I had to double check it was a Biden quote. What an evil fucking ghoul.

    • Doubledee [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      What’s more it makes me suspicious of you.

      Genuinely curious, do you think it matters to anyone in an online forum if you are vaguely suspicious of them? I’m not sure why you would even say that. What are you trying to accomplish?