• Kratom, sometimes referred to as “gas station heroin,” is an herb with opioid- and stimulant-like effects.
  • It can be fatal in very high doses but is not subject to much federal regulation.
  • So states and cities have been banning kratom sales or enacting rules and restrictions.
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    11 months ago

    “Gas Station Heroin” is tianeptine, which absolutely is s dangerous and incredibly addictive. Conflating that term with Kratom is foolish, it is mildly addictive but not super easy to get addicted to unless you like the taste of powdered ass coating your mouth multiple times a day. Tianeptine comes as easy to consume capsules with a much stronger high for your dollar. Yes Kratom comes in capsules but you’ll ditch them long before you’re truly addicted. I don’t think any psychoactive substance should be sold in gas stations, I think it’s where underage kids got the Juuls that got flavors banned and put in disposables instead. Headshops are the places that should be selling legal highs

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      11 months ago

      As an aside, I’m pissed about Tia. The sulfate especially worked wonders on my anxiety and depression with no major side effects.

      it being in the grey market (due to shitty politics) instead of being recognized like other countries as legitimate medicine leading to it’s abuse is a real problem.

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        11 months ago

        All I hear about is the side effects and it sounds like a drug id really like so I avoid it like crazy, like never tried it crazy. And I have tried several questionable things.

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          11 months ago

          Those side effects arent the ‘norm’ though. They are a result of long term high dose usage. (Plus gas station quality control)

          Using proper dosage (and legit formula not cut with anything else) side effects are potentially no worse than any other drug/ tricyclic antidepressant.

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            no worse than any other […] tricyclic antidepressant.

            Aren’t being addicting and easy to abuse properties of the tricyclic antidepressants and the reason they’re rarely prescribed nowadays?

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      11 months ago

      I’ve always known it as something that addicts use to try getting clean. I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who regularly uses it recreationally.

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        11 months ago

        Kratom? I use it recreationally, never been an opioid addict but I am an alcoholic and it’s a really nice way to relax at the end of a stressful day without drinking. It’s definitely addictive, but I find it so difficult to stomach enough doses frequently enough to really feel any withdrawal when I run out. I have heard from people that do manage to get fully addicted that withdrawal is 1000x worse than normal junk, but that’s anecdotal.