Google ramps up its campaign against ad blockers on Chrome.
  • Google is transitioning Chrome’s extension support from the Manifest V2 framework to the V3.
  • This means users won’t be able to use uBlock Origin to block ads on Google Chrome.
  • However, there’s a new iteration of the app — uBlock Origin Lite, which is Manifest V3 compliant but doesn’t boast the original version’s comprehensive ad-blocking features.
  • saltesc@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Aw man. I really like Vivaldi for its productivity and customisation. Guess I’ll have to go back to FF and try trick it out some.

  • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    Susceptible to intrusive ads and viruses.

    My Windows computer was infected more than once by virus spreading ads on legitimate websites. The site owners denied any responsibility for the viruses saying it was the fault and responsibility of the ad companies. Never again.

    • Twiglet@feddit.uk
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      1 month ago

      Yep, the main reason I started using adblockers in the first place is because I was tired of the weekly disinfection routine of my pc.

      Hiding ads wasn’t my main motivation to start with, I just wanted to keep my system safe and shit free.

    • Evotech@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      To be fair, some add-ons are the worst malware you can have. Google is trying to combat that

      • DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works
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        1 month ago

        Bullshit, they are trying to kneecap ad blocking to protect their bottom line. They could have protected people from sketchy add one without fucking up ublock

  • fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc
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    1 month ago

    This is as good a place as any to challenge firefox users: what are you doing to support the project?

    Using their software doesn’t support them, unless you search with Google and I doubt many users reading this do.

    Mozilla may be deserving of criticism, but criticism alone does not support them.

    I fear that one day we will lose firefox.

    • tibi@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      My biggest worry about Mozilla is that most of their revenue comes from Google. What’s stopping Google from demanding that Mozilla does certain things to Firefox, like forcing them to reduce the ad blocking capabilities, just like Chrome?

    • BakedCatboy@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      1 month ago

      I pay for Mozilla VPN and relay throwaway email addresses. And I seldom use either it’s basically just a donation.

    • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      What’s even worse is every time someone mentions Firefox, some chucklefuck has to go hardcore negative on everything Mozilla does that is 1/10th as shitty as Google. Just shut your piehole if you don’t like the only somewhat private open source browser.

      • Chozo@fedia.io
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        1 month ago

        Let’s be honest, Mozilla is only 1/10 as shitty as Google because they’re 1/100 the size. If they had the resources, they’d be just as awful. They’ve already shown us how awful they can be at their current size, I can’t imagine how bad they’d be if they were at Google’s scale. Firing your employees and giving your execs bonuses is 100% a Google-like move, and the only reason they stopped at a few hundred employees was because they didn’t have more to give.

        Just because they make a good open source product doesn’t make them immune from criticism.

        • 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de
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          1 month ago

          You severely underestimate how shitty Google is. I highly doubt Mozilla would try to pull shit like Web Integrity or making their sites work worse on competitor browsers on purpose even if they were as large as Google. (Though, maybe to become as large as Google they would have to start doing this kind of shit so you might be right in some way.)

  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 month ago

    Firefox is a very nice experience. If you’re still hanging onto Chrome, I strongly suggest you at least try Firefox. I suspect most people have very little reason to stay with Google products.

  • ngwoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Use Firefox. If something you use ABSOLUTELY needs Chromium yell at whoever makes the thing. If that still doesn’t work use Brave. But then go back to Firefox for everything else.

      • Tja@programming.dev
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        1 month ago

        What you are missing out on? Probably not much. Some sites might even work worse if you switch, due to lazyness or sabotage by devs.

        Using Firefox is good for the ecosystem in general, to have a counter balance to Google. I use both Firefox and chromium and see very little difference. Some extensions might be worth it (like the title says), so that might be a difference for you.

          • hswolf@lemmy.world
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            1 month ago

            short answer: No

            long answer: Most people just like to shout-out what they like, and don’t want to know your use case. If you need pc/mobile sync, Firefox will be your best choice here.

      • Voltage@sh.itjust.works
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        1 month ago

        I know its everyone’s personal choice and all that but in my opinion people should stop using chromium engine browsers. It was a good engine however the fact that chromium has the majority users is the only thing holding lazy developers from porting websites to work with other browser engines gives google more control.

          • stetech@lemmy.world
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            1 month ago

            Most “browsers” being marketed out there are based off of Google’s Chromium project. They are effectively re-skins of it (simplifying a little). Examples include Brave, Vivaldi, Opera I believe.

            Firefox is completely separate and independent from this ecosystem (which is also why there’s a separate extension store for Firefox).

            The third and last major (>a couple % market share) engine is WebKit, which is the basis of Apple’s Safari.

            There’s tons of cool stuff out there, but it’s either niche (platform/use case), unstable to use, and/or both. Examples: Servo, Ladybird, Orion

            To sum it up, if you’re a normal, average user:

            • If you have exclusively Apple devices, probably try Safari (for the synchronization & battery efficiency)
            • If not, Firefox!
            • If you need it because of some really messed up development/compatibility issues, the last resort is Ungoogled/de-googled Chromium

            While on the topic, here’s some cool browser extensions:

            Edit: fixed a link

      • Hanrahan@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Support for Chromuin backed browsers ?

        I keep Throriim there for the odd shit ball site thear refuses but then thats the point.

    • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Screw that. Use Firefox, but if you need Chrome, use brave, use Vivaldi, use Opera for all it mattwrs. Asanything that still works is fine.

      This brave paranoia is just insane. You don’t want crypto, don’t use it. You don’t trust brave use Vivaldi, but spreading fake fear is BS.

      • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Brave altered URLs clicked to add their own affiliate links. Browsers should go to where you click. That’s like their whole job. There are reasons to dislike Brave apart from crypto.

        • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 month ago

          4 years ago

          Also Firefox sends all of your browser data to Google for safe browsing checks Right now.

          • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
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            1 month ago

            Are you talking about this? They say it only calls out to get updated lists and when you actually arrive at a phishing page to check if the page is still marked as suspicious.

            Source: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-does-phishing-and-malware-protection-work#w_what-information-is-sent-to-mozilla-or-its-partners-when-phishing-and-malware-protection-is-enabled

            Also, I agree it was 4 years ago. That’s a fair point. To me it’s super important and they’ve probably permanently lost my trust (or at least it’s always going to be besmudged). If you believe they’ve changed in that time period (or it’s not as critical to you) then that’s fine.

            For what it’s worth, when I need a Chromium based browser because the site has a bug and won’t work with Firefox my (current) go to is Brave. I use it on a semi regular basis because dndbeyond.com works poorly with Firefox. So every 2 to 4 weeks I use it for that.

            • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              1 month ago

              You can also disable FF from connecting to safe browsing with flags. I prefer to let my DNS handle that list.

              My Work ADP portal also misbehaves in FF.

              I’ve also made FF stop using Google search for anything.

              I advocate people use whatever works for them. I’d advocate for Edge, but they have already clarified they intend to follow Chrome to the letter.

              Vivaldi has claimed they intend to fork and not enforce V3, but acknowledge it’s no small feat and they may fail.

              Operam I believe has claimed they intend not to enforce V3

              Brave goes as far as saying that they’re immune to it even if they turned it on.

              I don’t trust any browser 100% Firefox was close and is still my most trusted.

              I’m down with pushing everyone into Firefox, but I’m not loving the chrome variant hate. Use whatever works unless the browsers are currently acting bad.

      • CafecitoHippo@lemm.eeEnglish
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        1 month ago

        You don’t want crypto, don’t use it.

        I use Brave as my Chrome based browser when not using Floorp but there were other issues with Brave in the past like injecting their affiliate links unbeknownst to users so they could make money off them. They have reverted that decision but that they thought it was acceptable in the first place leaves some to question, rightly, what other shenanigans they might pull. They’ve also had issues with paying out Creators BAT tokens.

        • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 month ago

          Yep company’s not totally trustworthy neither is Google neither is Microsoft. By the way, Firefox still sends all of your websites to Google to get safe traffic prompts.

          Brave also got and slapped by the SEC for the handling of their crypto sales.

          The link issue you’re speaking of was 4 years ago. The CEO issued a formal apology.

          They’re a funded company they are trying to make money to pay the developers to stay solvent.

          On the upside they’re using that money to fight Google’s ad blocking and to keep manifest V3 optional.

          The way they block the ads happens outside of manifest so even if they take the manifest code they still won’t have ads. Of the chromium ancestry browsers they are the most likely to continue running long-term. They’re also the fastest solution for YouTube blocking when YouTube makes changes.

          I main Firefox but still use brave over edge or opera.

          Right now, we need all the boats we have. Not everything works in Firefox you need to have a backup,

  • madcaesar@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    FYI TELL YOUR LOVED ONES ABOUT THIS

    If you are on here you’re probably like me “the it guy of the family”

    Mom and dad aren’t going to switch themselves, remove chrome for them as the default install Firefox and tell them to use that unless something absolutely refuses to work. Pick your battles.

    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      If you are the IT guy just buy a raspberry pi or a cheap mini pc and install pi-hole at your parents place that you can access remotely. That way their entire network is blocked from ads and you can troubleshoot from anywhere.

        • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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          1 month ago

          I gave my parents 3 "The internet stopped working so I reset the router"s before I stopped trying. If you can’t follow the simplest instructions you’re on your own. Enjoy your adds and paying for subscription services.

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Sometimes people just refuse common sense and have to be left to ruin their own lives, no matter how much you love them.

        Cause theres no point drowning yourself, trying to keep idiots that refuse to swim above water.

  • mindlight@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    If you want to avoid ads it might be a good idea to not use products from a company which primary goal is to make money on ads…

    But hey, what do I know…