Google ramps up its campaign against ad blockers on Chrome.
  • Google is transitioning Chrome’s extension support from the Manifest V2 framework to the V3.
  • This means users won’t be able to use uBlock Origin to block ads on Google Chrome.
  • However, there’s a new iteration of the app — uBlock Origin Lite, which is Manifest V3 compliant but doesn’t boast the original version’s comprehensive ad-blocking features.
  • saltesc@lemmy.world
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    11 个月前

    Aw man. I really like Vivaldi for its productivity and customisation. Guess I’ll have to go back to FF and try trick it out some.

  • skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de
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    11 个月前

    All the webdev companies’ across the planet at their sprint planning in a few weeks: “So, shit, we finally need to support Firefox correctly.”

  • GaMEChld@lemmy.world
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    11 个月前

    Just finished migrating to Firefox this year to prep for this. See Ya later Chrome! Give my regards to Netscape.

  • mindlight@lemm.ee
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    11 个月前

    If you want to avoid ads it might be a good idea to not use products from a company which primary goal is to make money on ads…

    But hey, what do I know…

  • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works
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    11 个月前

    Susceptible to intrusive ads and viruses.

    My Windows computer was infected more than once by virus spreading ads on legitimate websites. The site owners denied any responsibility for the viruses saying it was the fault and responsibility of the ad companies. Never again.

  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    11 个月前

    Firefox is a very nice experience. If you’re still hanging onto Chrome, I strongly suggest you at least try Firefox. I suspect most people have very little reason to stay with Google products.

  • ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 个月前

    Not trying to troll or anything, but what can Chrome do that Firefox cannot?

    I’ve always felt like Firefox has more useful features like screenshotting, etc.

    • bokherif@lemmy.world
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      11 个月前

      Some websites intentionally break Firefox for some reason. I’ve had numerous issues on Firefox which were resolved by switching to Chrome. These could potentially be fixed by a User-Agent string change, but instead of dealing with it I switched to a Chromium based browser.

      • Scrollone@feddit.it
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        11 个月前

        What if we stop using User-Agent altogether? It would increase privacy and prevent browser discrimination. Too bad for the Analytics services, but after all… who cares?

        • _____@lemm.eeEnglish
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          11 个月前

          Ding ding. This header is bullshit and only exists to exploit users.

    • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world
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      11 个月前

      Even if it didn’t have superior functionality, I’d still support & use firefox over chrome just because I don’t care how fast the sports car is: if it’s not going where I tell it to, I ain’t gettin’ in.

    • PassingThrough@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 个月前

      I only break out Chrome(or Edge) for two reasons:

      One is access to serial ports to flash ESP devices, or update the firmware on my XR glasses. Firefox can’t do that.

      The other is to automate Twitch drop collection. The addon I found to reload broken streams and collect drops while I’m at work only has a Chrome version.

      • Billiam@lemmy.world
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        11 个月前

        The addon I found to reload broken streams and collect drops while I’m at work only has a Chrome version.

        The question is, is it gonna have a Manifest V3 version?

        • PassingThrough@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 个月前

          Looking at it, seems not. Google store page says it doesn’t follow best practices and may soon no longer be supported. AFAIK it’s a single dev hobby project so this might be the end of it. Ah well. I’ll just no longer have as many free skins for games.

          • Billiam@lemmy.world
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            11 个月前

            I’ll just no longer have as many free skins for games.

            Yeah, that FOMO is a bitch. I had to break myself of obsessively clicking for drops for games I don’t own or haven’t been playing.

    • greenskye@lemm.eeEnglish
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      11 个月前

      Last time I checked: tab groups. Yes there are extensions for it, but all the ones I tried were either really over complicated or buggy. Chrome tab groups are pretty simple and seamless to use.

      But I’m going to have to figure something out because I’d rather lose tab groups than ad blocking, so I’ll have to switch to something.

      • Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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        11 个月前

        Didn’t know about those in Chrome. Sounds good, though I’ve always just grouped my Firefox tabs by having a browser window of tabs per logical group

  • ngwoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 个月前

    Use Firefox. If something you use ABSOLUTELY needs Chromium yell at whoever makes the thing. If that still doesn’t work use Brave. But then go back to Firefox for everything else.

      • Tja@programming.dev
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        11 个月前

        What you are missing out on? Probably not much. Some sites might even work worse if you switch, due to lazyness or sabotage by devs.

        Using Firefox is good for the ecosystem in general, to have a counter balance to Google. I use both Firefox and chromium and see very little difference. Some extensions might be worth it (like the title says), so that might be a difference for you.

          • hswolf@lemmy.world
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            11 个月前

            short answer: No

            long answer: Most people just like to shout-out what they like, and don’t want to know your use case. If you need pc/mobile sync, Firefox will be your best choice here.

      • Hanrahan@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        11 个月前

        Support for Chromuin backed browsers ?

        I keep Throriim there for the odd shit ball site thear refuses but then thats the point.

      • Voltage@sh.itjust.works
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        11 个月前

        I know its everyone’s personal choice and all that but in my opinion people should stop using chromium engine browsers. It was a good engine however the fact that chromium has the majority users is the only thing holding lazy developers from porting websites to work with other browser engines gives google more control.

          • stetech@lemmy.world
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            11 个月前

            Most “browsers” being marketed out there are based off of Google’s Chromium project. They are effectively re-skins of it (simplifying a little). Examples include Brave, Vivaldi, Opera I believe.

            Firefox is completely separate and independent from this ecosystem (which is also why there’s a separate extension store for Firefox).

            The third and last major (>a couple % market share) engine is WebKit, which is the basis of Apple’s Safari.

            There’s tons of cool stuff out there, but it’s either niche (platform/use case), unstable to use, and/or both. Examples: Servo, Ladybird, Orion

            To sum it up, if you’re a normal, average user:

            • If you have exclusively Apple devices, probably try Safari (for the synchronization & battery efficiency)
            • If not, Firefox!
            • If you need it because of some really messed up development/compatibility issues, the last resort is Ungoogled/de-googled Chromium

            While on the topic, here’s some cool browser extensions:

            Edit: fixed a link

    • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 个月前

      Screw that. Use Firefox, but if you need Chrome, use brave, use Vivaldi, use Opera for all it mattwrs. Asanything that still works is fine.

      This brave paranoia is just insane. You don’t want crypto, don’t use it. You don’t trust brave use Vivaldi, but spreading fake fear is BS.

      • CafecitoHippo@lemm.eeEnglish
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        11 个月前

        You don’t want crypto, don’t use it.

        I use Brave as my Chrome based browser when not using Floorp but there were other issues with Brave in the past like injecting their affiliate links unbeknownst to users so they could make money off them. They have reverted that decision but that they thought it was acceptable in the first place leaves some to question, rightly, what other shenanigans they might pull. They’ve also had issues with paying out Creators BAT tokens.

        • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 个月前

          Yep company’s not totally trustworthy neither is Google neither is Microsoft. By the way, Firefox still sends all of your websites to Google to get safe traffic prompts.

          Brave also got and slapped by the SEC for the handling of their crypto sales.

          The link issue you’re speaking of was 4 years ago. The CEO issued a formal apology.

          They’re a funded company they are trying to make money to pay the developers to stay solvent.

          On the upside they’re using that money to fight Google’s ad blocking and to keep manifest V3 optional.

          The way they block the ads happens outside of manifest so even if they take the manifest code they still won’t have ads. Of the chromium ancestry browsers they are the most likely to continue running long-term. They’re also the fastest solution for YouTube blocking when YouTube makes changes.

          I main Firefox but still use brave over edge or opera.

          Right now, we need all the boats we have. Not everything works in Firefox you need to have a backup,

      • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
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        11 个月前

        Brave altered URLs clicked to add their own affiliate links. Browsers should go to where you click. That’s like their whole job. There are reasons to dislike Brave apart from crypto.

        • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 个月前

          4 years ago

          Also Firefox sends all of your browser data to Google for safe browsing checks Right now.

          • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
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            11 个月前

            Are you talking about this? They say it only calls out to get updated lists and when you actually arrive at a phishing page to check if the page is still marked as suspicious.

            Source: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-does-phishing-and-malware-protection-work#w_what-information-is-sent-to-mozilla-or-its-partners-when-phishing-and-malware-protection-is-enabled

            Also, I agree it was 4 years ago. That’s a fair point. To me it’s super important and they’ve probably permanently lost my trust (or at least it’s always going to be besmudged). If you believe they’ve changed in that time period (or it’s not as critical to you) then that’s fine.

            For what it’s worth, when I need a Chromium based browser because the site has a bug and won’t work with Firefox my (current) go to is Brave. I use it on a semi regular basis because dndbeyond.com works poorly with Firefox. So every 2 to 4 weeks I use it for that.

            • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              11 个月前

              You can also disable FF from connecting to safe browsing with flags. I prefer to let my DNS handle that list.

              My Work ADP portal also misbehaves in FF.

              I’ve also made FF stop using Google search for anything.

              I advocate people use whatever works for them. I’d advocate for Edge, but they have already clarified they intend to follow Chrome to the letter.

              Vivaldi has claimed they intend to fork and not enforce V3, but acknowledge it’s no small feat and they may fail.

              Operam I believe has claimed they intend not to enforce V3

              Brave goes as far as saying that they’re immune to it even if they turned it on.

              I don’t trust any browser 100% Firefox was close and is still my most trusted.

              I’m down with pushing everyone into Firefox, but I’m not loving the chrome variant hate. Use whatever works unless the browsers are currently acting bad.

  • vanderbilt@lemmy.world
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    11 个月前

    Hopefully the DoJ case against Google includes getting bent over a barrel for abusing their position as a market maker to force their revenue model.