Elon and Trump make the worst possible argument for nuclear power I have ever heard:
“Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed but now they are full cities again,” the multibillionaire owner of Tesla, SpaceX and X said.
“That’s great, that’s great,” Mr Trump responded.
“It is not as scary as people think, basically,” Mr Musk added.
They joked about nuclear power facing a “branding problem”.
“We will have to rebrand it,” the former president told Mr Musk. “We will name it after you or something.”
They’re really working on making World War III attractive. That’s not a joke. They long for war.
We already had two World Wars and civilization still exists. It’s not as scary as people think, basically. /s
It’s the absolute decadence of having a generation of youngsters offered up to the blood God for your personal indulging of geopolitical prowess
It would be really fun to punch him in the face for like 30 minutes.
The internet has come full circle!
There used to be a game in the 90’s where you punch Bill Gates in the face.
I remember an early 2000 game called Who wants to Beat Up a Millionaire
Which was a quiz and if you got the right answer, you get to beat up your millionaire opponents until they aren’t millionaires any more. Even getting some weapons.
Ah, good times.
Just needs updated to billionaire.
I only recently learned of this:
This and Grave of the Fireflies are the two depictions of Japanese tragedy during WWII that I always think of
Nuclear bombs are a problem because it’s something just a fucking insane genocide will use. Isn’t about it will do a lot of damage it’s cos it kills everyone in a big radius WO distinguish if they civilians or army.
This guy studied physics at MIT right? Doesn’t know how dangerous atomic bombs are?
He didn’t study at MIT. He studied at UPenn and lied about having graduated from there two years earlier than he did, for some reason
Ah my mistake. Reading his wikipedia right now, it says, “he transferred to the University of Pennsylvania, an Ivy League university in Philadelphia, where he earned two degrees: a Bachelor of Arts in physics, and a Bachelor of Science in economics from the university’s Wharton School.” Had no idea Bachelor of Arts in physics was a thing. But economics is Bachelor of Science? What happened there? Is that a mistake? Physics is a hard science.
My school offered a BA in physics. I never knew anyone who took it (I did the BS) but they claimed it was aimed at theater set- designers.
At some schools, any major can result in a BA or BS depending on which electives you take.
Definitely resulted in huge pile of BS with Musk.
Yeah, it’s my perception that the BA for sciences are for people that want to teach high school and lower. That’s how i got a math degree. I’m not sure if i could’ve handled any applied math. Abstract algebra kicked my ass twice, and diff eq took me a couple of months in to get comfortable with.
He didn’t graduate in Physics either. Only got his degree 2 years after he left school and the school received a “generous endowment”.
He bought his Physics “degree”
I’d like to take a moment to share this video about what happens to the human body at different zones of the blast. It’s pretty horrific, but simulated.
How fast would the disintegration in zone 5 (fireball) happen? Would the nervous system even register it?
Wouldn’t feel a thing. At minimum the blast would travel at the speed of sound ~343m/s. Nerve conduction velocity is on the range of 120m/s. Your nerves would be vapor before the signal reached its destination.
The absurd amount of radiation (thermal included) would get there even faster!
I figured. I was just sure the minimum would be speed of sound. Other than speed of light, I’ve no idea what the maximum would be.
This is both comforting and incredibly morbid. Idk how to feel.
No need to feel
You wouldn’t feel it, that is the point
Okay then. I call shotgun for zone 5
Sounds good. I’ll choose zone 0. Or whatever is outside the blast radius. Good luck.
Cool story Elon. Tell us, how bad would it be if a Fat Man bomb was detonated over your house? Pretty bad? Yeah now STFU.
I have an idea Elon - how about we bomb your house with you in it? I’m sure after a while some other people will build another house there and move in, so it’s all good, right?
Yea, it wouldn’t be as bad as he thinks.
The Japanese people witnessing those events might have a second opinion.
The World Trade Center was destroyed by terrorists, but they built a new one. Not as scary as you think.
not as scary as people think
This painting/drawing is from artist Kichisuke Yoshimura, who said of it, “Their clothes ripped to shreds, their skin hanging down. On the riverbank I saw figures that seemed to be from another world. Ghost-like, their hair falling over their faces, their clothes ripped to shreds, their skin hanging. A cluster of these injured persons was moving wordlessly toward the outskirts.”
John Hersey’s book, Hiroshima, which is a book of personal accounts he recorded just one year after the event from six people who were there, is one of the most haunting things you will ever read.
some children where at home after the bomb fell and they said a horrific burnt figure on fours came crawling in and died. It was so burnt black and horrifically melted they thought it was a dog. It was their mother.
absolutely sickening these “men” I wish i could just absolutely take it to these pieces of shit and beat them senseless.
Not scary: some people were vaporized leaving only a shadow, others badly burned as the painting shows, people were maimed and amputated by the blast, and a big part of the city was blown and burned down. Plus the poor souls who would die horribly from acute radiation poisoning over the following days.
And let’s not forget those nuclear weapons were some of the very first ever made. Modern atomic weapons can range from Hiroshima-size to turning a mountain into a radioactive lake range. Thankfully no hydrogen bomb has even been used in anger because that would be a completely different level of horror (and likely the trigger to the end of human civilization).
Many nuclear powers have policies to fire nukes on warning. That means they would shoot back even before the enemy nuke hits them. Shoot when the nukes are confirmed to be incoming.
Republicans love to regularly talk down the World-ending horror that would be using atomic weapons in war. During Bush Jr.'s “war on terror” they were already talking about using bunker-buster nukes and tried to diminish the well-deserved stigma of nuclear weapons.
Renaming them atomic weapons “Musk bombs” sounds hilariously misguided.
Ok, so now that’s Japan, EU, UK and Brazil that hate elon’s guts. He’s gonna start to run out of democracies to fuck with, will he move on to dictators or is that friendly fire?
As a nation of one, one of my foreign policy agendas is the eradication of everything Elon Musk stands for. All my cells voted in favor of this, we are not a house divided.
He will not mess with dictators. Because in those countries he can get anything he wants just by bribing a few people. Not so in democracies.
He’s gonna run for president some time in the future, mark my words. And he’s gonna be a lot worse than Trump.
He can’t right? Born in South-Africa, so he’s ineligible.
Wasn’t 44 born in Kenya or something?
Hawaii. Close enough for some though.
Wouldn’t matter if he was (he was born in Hawai’i). His mother was American and he automatically was. Elon’s father and mother are South African.
A bunch of racist assholes made that claim while Obama was in office, but they notably never produced even the tiniest shred of evidence that it was even a possibility.
So no. He wasn’t born in Kenya.
Oh, I see.
This is the problem with misinformation and low information voters. Shits been a decade and you still thought he was born in Kenya?
Do you actually follow any news sources at all?
That would count on the Supreme Court not to mess with this for a Republican candidate.
Let’s associate a nuclear power plant with Elon’s record of dumping mercury in waterways and not giving a shit about safety.
If Elon musk goes into nuclear energy I guarantee you, the plant he would make will have a meltdown that would make Fukushima and Chernobyl look tame comparison.
It clear most here didn’t listen to the steam. There is a lot of bullshit in that stream. But this barely meets the bar.
Trump was on the coal and oil train and Elon was basically trying to convince Trump that nuclear power is not as risky as people make it out to be. He even refuted Trump’s claim that the land in Fukushima and other nuclear disasters will be inhabitable for 1000+ years. His example may have been in poor taste, but not like the headlines make it out to be.
P.S. In 2024, is there already not enough material from these two dipshits that the news sites still have to take things out of context for clicks?
