• stembolts@programming.dev
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    3 months ago

    If you’re going to do the “both sides” thing. Then directly compare via measurable elements.

    120,000+ (Palestine) in retaliation for 1,200 (Israel).

    67 years occupied (Palestine) vs 0 years occupied.

    Countless homes bulldozed in 67 years vs occasional successful terrorist attacks.

    Oh wait, I get why you do the vague thing now… because when you draw it out proportionally Israel looks like a demon.

    The “both sides bad” thing doesn’t work anymore, it’s played out and most people see through it. Though I guess you didn’t, so maybe it has some merit.

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      3 months ago

      I’m not convinced that murdering 1200 people is defensible even if the retaliation is also not defensible. Both sides are fucking awful. Whether one side is less awful than the other is irrelevant. i do the vague thing because I don’t care about the details, it doesn’t matter who killed more innocent people they’re both mass murdering authoritarian ultraconservative (if not outright fascists, and that irony is not lost on me) states. Every time this comes up someone like you goes “Waaah! Israel are worse!” and yes they are in actions (if not intentions - they’re about the same), but that’s not really relevant when both are so far below even a little bit defensible.

      The best thing to do, IMO, would be to take the leadership ALL the leadership, of both states and lock them in a single room with two knives and no food, then melt the key. Then tell the populations of both countries not to elect such idiots and let them try again! Not gonna happen but a man can dream