Ugh, hate reruns
I hope they are doing a ton of debate prep with her. He’ll be hopped on drugs to keep him going. He may be a liar but he is also a bully and very bombastic. He doesn’t have to beat her on the issues he just has to overwhelm her.
I hope so too. I’m sure they are.
That said I honestly expect Kampala to wipe the floor with trumps toupee even on her worst day.
His last performance really showed he’s a one trick pony, and his one trick isn’t that good.
Even if she just ignored the moderator, and ignored trump, and just talk about his shady dealings, legal problems, and shitty record as pres.
I think her time as a criminal prosecutor will come in handy.
In court there are rules even he had to obey. On Fox with a handpicked audience it would be chaos.
Good thing she refused to go, right?
Rejects means a No, fyi.
Fyi, I’m not the_joeba, and my comment that such a situation “would be chaos” still applies, it’s the reason she refused.
Do you remember the VP debate? She shut Pence up with “I’m speaking…!” I hope she gives Trump a haymaker like that
Women raising their voices makes Pence wet himself in fear (or possibly joy) so that’s probably not a good metric.
Maybe doing something at Fox could work, but it won’t be a debate. It could be entertainment. It will be a waste of time in this arrangement. I think.
Remember when Bernie went on Fox and got cheers? https://youtu.be/DV60Q8-B808
That was pretty good! But it didn’t get disseminated into the right wing news ecosystem. I don’t thing Harris being in a debate on Fox news will, either.
“Who’s gonna pay for healthcare?”
First world countries pay less per capita for universal healthcare than the US does to cover a minority and in the US the majority has to also pay for private coverage as well as the share of their taxes that goes to public healthcare coverage THAT THEY DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO. Implemented the right way, 100% public healthcare would actually save the US government money, implemented wrong it would still save people money because right now it’s for profit companies that cover them, the government isn’t a for profit business, it only needs to collect enough taxes to pay for the service.
Faux News is first, foremost, and exclusively the conservative right’s propaganda arm. Can’t wait until Rupert Murdoch dies and his heirs tear the network apart fighting over the money.
I’ve been trying to think of a good response if he starts following Harris around like he did Hillary. Something along the lines of stopping, looking him in the eye and…
“What are you doing?” “I’m just walking.” “Well walk over there. You following me around like this is creepy.” Looks to moderator, “Can we do something about this? This is weird, right?”
On paper, pretty mild. But in the middle of a Presidential debate, I think it would be great.
Better to just say, “You’re so weird” and then ignore him and continue with her debate points, not ask moderator for help. If he keeps doing it work it into a response like “I will work to earn the respect of people, not try to intimidate them like this weirdo here.”
Hear me out here:
Lock. In. A. Sock.
Or if she just turns around and pepper sprays him! She could go on with a PSA about women protecting themselves from rapists.
Chef’s kiss
Seems reasonable. There is already an agreed upon time and place, anything other than that is back tracking by Trump. Even if they try to spin it to say he “agreed” to do it on Fox, to try and put the ball in Harris’ court. The reality is he already agreed to the ABC debate and any change is him backing out of that and pivoting.
I may have missed something, and I don’t think it should really matter, but did he agree to debate Biden, Harris, or just generally “his opponent”? He still needs to do it, but I wonder if there was a specific agreement.
Edit: punctuation
From what I understand it’s anyone with over 15 percent of something in polls and something about being eligible to run for enough electoral votes. I don’t really know what that last part meant other than perhaps they have to be eligible to be on enough state ballots for the required electoral college votes.
Biden was the presumptive nominee at the time he originally agreed to it, and you’re right, it shouldn’t and doesn’t matter.
It is especially odd that his counter-proposed date ia before the previously agreed on date, which completely undermines the already weak claim that the change in candidate somehow inconveniences the Trump campaign.
I mean, it does, but only in the sense that the new crew are running circles around Trump and Co.
To be fair, he was okay with the format when he was the least sundowned participant. Now that he’s the most it’s not in his favor.
The person you’re replying to is the first I’ve seen point out that Trump didn’t agree to debate Kamala when someone says he did, so obviously some people think it matters since it’s not actually a true statement but keeps being repeated.
I want to see both debates myself. Let each fight while the other has advantage.
I figured they want her to look bad by not showing up first. I’m actually not sure how she can avoid the Fox debate without looking like she’s avoiding him.
He wants Fox? Fine.
Do a two moderator combo. One from Fox, and the other is Jon Stewart or Rachel Maddow.
And if you want to get really messy, make the audience a 50/50 recruitment spit too. And assign seating at random.
Stewart can play both roles on his own. He will not hesitate to call EITHER side out.
Yeah, Stewart is great, Maddow is a DNC shill. If they used an old school Republican like Chris Wallace from Fox, I wouldn’t be too concerned.
Did you really just imply that Chris Wallace has a higher level of journalistic integrity than Rachel Maddow?
Do you expect anybody to take you seriously after you say something like that?
🤣
And assign seating at random.
Whoa whoa… we don’t want there to be blood!
If you wanna make it interactive, hide pool noodles under the seats and see what happens when people start antagonizing their seat neighbors.
Keep going…
Jerry Springer, 2024 edition.
Who is the check being written to?
They would be sending a goon squad.
Don’t fall for it.
50/50 split with random season will result in an all out Jerry Springer style brawl.
Yeah. I’d watch that.
Good faux ‘news’ is ultra biased
Trump will be asking to duel with pistols next, except only he gets bullets.
Obviously it needs to be outside in a field with a lot of tall buildings.
With one medieval weapon allowed each
Trump wants a forum where he is free to spout lies without fact checkers and his supporters can scream over any objections
And where this cultists can feed his ego to give him a critical confidence boost.
She could turn it around though by mentioning all the campaign promises he didn’t do like put Hillary in prison, building the wall was mostly done by Biden, drain the swamp when he just cut taxes for the rich…
Like really hammer home the promises he made to Fox viewers that he broke.
This, he never even lifted one finger to drain the swamp. Not one finger.
If she says “You didn’t ‘lock her up’ like you promised” he’ll just turn it around on her and claim that she should be locked up. Chats of “lock her up!” will begin as they completely ignore anything negative said about him.
I mean, it’s not like they’ve really used fact-checkers in any of the debates before, maybe after the debate is over, but they rarely fact-check them on the spot. I wish they’d have a running tally in front of the candidates that was updated throughout the debate with a general “truthiness” indicator. Just a dial gauge that gave an indication of how many statements the person had made vs how many were lies. It could be a way to attach a quantifiable “score” to a person’s debate performance outside of just quips and one-liners.
Trump is such a 🐔 🐔 🐔 🐔
🐔💩
He is afraid to be alone in a room with her.
He’s old enough that women can fight back now.
As a old and weird man should be.
It’s probably also an attempt to dominate a woman by trying to force her into doing what he wants.
This isn’t a 90’s Sitcom, Trump. You weird, old, deprecated bastard.
deprecated
Superb use of that word - I hadn’t considered using it as an insult but it definitely fits here!
If Trump wants to debate, he can show up to the one he already agreed to go to.
The debate should take place on a news channel.
From his description he wants it to take place in the MAGA THUNDERDOME.
Still think Pete Buttigieg would slay regardless.
I have to admit I don’t know how Kamal would do, but that’s just my ignorance of her real time media savvy
This. Fox is just an entertainment channel legally per their own admission.
Fucking exactly!
They and any other network that wants to be considered “journalism/news” should NOT be allowed to have their opinion entertainment shows on the same network/channel as their journalistic programs.
It’s absolute bullshit that they’re allowed to get away with this crap where working hours when no one is home to watch is when we have our journalists on, then primetime is when we lie with impunity on our opinion shows because It’S EnTeRtAiNmEnT NoT NeWs!
I’m really sick of the fact that Fox has had this decade long run of “The Days of our Trump’s” drama…
Right here!!! Say it again for the weirdos in the back of the room.
