• JonsJava@lemmy.world
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    The title is the original title that NYT published. They updated it after backlash (rightfully so). Please don’t report this post again.

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      Can you not update the title? I can update my title on posts to different communities… Why preserve the old/pre-change title?

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    Headline so insanely misleading they had to change it lol. NYTimes is such a joke these days

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    According to Mr. Trump’s post on his social media site, the debate is to take place at a to-be-determined location in Pennsylvania, the must-win battleground state that could help decide the election. Fox News anchors Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum would moderate.

    It was unclear early Saturday if Ms. Harris had agreed to the debate and its terms. Representatives for her campaign did not respond to requests for comment. A spokeswoman for Fox News also did not respond to questions.

    I think it’s worth waiting to see if Harris has actually agreed to this, in the extremely unlikely chance that Trump lied about a thing.

    Also, pretty funny that even if that’s the case, Trump still needs a month to prepare and it has to be in his safe space network.

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      he is only ‘agreeing’ with the voice inside his head bouncing between the three brain cells. trying to play games and force harris into it.

      i highly doubt harris would agree to those terms. nfw.

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      The Harris campaign on Saturday declined to commit to the Fox News debate and said it was still planning on a Sept. 10 debate hosted by ABC.

      “Donald Trump is running scared and trying to back out of the debate he already agreed to and running straight to Fox News to bail him out. He needs to stop playing games and show up to the debate he already committed to on Sept. 10,”

      I think that’s pretty clear.

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        Pleassssseeeee stick to this Harris!! Man we can only hope.

        I’m glad she called it exactly for what it was. Too bad Magoos will only see this as she wants her supposed safe space. :(

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      Well, Harris does have a pre-existing commitment coming up soon. Surprised Trump didn’t challenge her to debate during that.

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      I think this is bad news tbh. Harris can be as capable as she wants, but if the broadcaster doesnt stop Trump from a endless ramble or cut off his mic if he escalates to intolerable levels of behaviour, then this could end badly.

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        Don’t give Fox News respect. Start talking shit about it right now. Call this what it is, a scared old weird man who will only debate Harris on a “news” network currently paying billions for lying to everyone about the last election. Harris will treat Trump and the “journalists” playing moderators like children which is how we should’ve been treating them for years. Talking to them like adults validates their lies and bullshit.

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          Harris should call them out. “I said a debate on a news source, not some weird entertainment channel. Might as well have the weather channel moderate the debate!”

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            While entertaining for us, I don’t think that’d be a wise reaction. If she wants to win, she probably also needs to sway some people that are lifetime FOX junkies. Such a reaction could have a ‘basket of deplorables’ effect (being the stone cold truth, but hardly effective)

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              Being nice to idiots has proven to be hardly effective. Kamala needs to read word for word the arguments the Fox News lawyers made when they were in court for the dominion case. Fox News isn’t news it’s entertainment and they don’t employ journalists they employ entertainers. This is what Fox News said.

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                No, what she needs to do is win this election. That’s her job, everything else (like taking entertainment corpos to task for their shady tactics) comes secondary right now.

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                  I fail to see how one impedes the other, in fact I would argue it would help her win. If she’s running on doing just that why wouldn’t she take a shot. Why hide? You think any Fox News fanboys would be swayed by anything Kamala says? Her time would be better spent attracting unregistered voters and she could do that by saying the quiet part out loud.

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    Trump when Biden is running: “Any time, any place”

    Trump when Harris is running: “One specific time, one specific place”

    Harris is going to wipe the floor with this guy.

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      Only if the venue rules are fairly done.

      That is not what Fox’s history shows Fox doing as a news an entertainment channel. They will put any BS up to garner attention. For example, DEI hire.

      If Fox applied the same benchmarks on Trump’s past ‘accomplishments’ and Trump isn’t fit for employment, period.

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    Yes, the network that had to pay nearly a billion dollars for pushing a false narrative in order to get Trump elected the last time around is the perfect venue. Oh, and a live Fox News audience? What could be bad about that?

    What a joke.

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          I was thinking Kamala. Never know with those idiots though. lol

          Side note: Did you happen to see the close ups of Trump’s ear at the ABJ convention? Shit was on FULL DISPLAY and didn’t look shot at all. 🤔

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            Ask anyone who wears earrings, ears heal fast. (That said, I expect he only had a scratch.)

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                A 2cm graze wound is different from a 2 cm penetrating wound. Even that fact can be misleading.

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              Not from a bullet wound, they don’t.

              I still maintain that he got a scratch from a shard of the teleprompter at worst, and has been milking it for all it’s worth.

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            Because it wasn’t. That blood was the spatter from an actual victim behind him. He has been pretending to have been shot, without any actual injury of any kind.

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              How could the blood have been from the other victim? They were no where near that close to Trump. They would have had to have been on the stage with him lol

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                Blood spatter can travel quite a long distance. The shooting victim was in the crowd immediately behind Trump at what looks to be about 15-20 feet away. If he was that close, a high velocity projectile could create spatter that could reach the podium.

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                  Apply Occam’s razor here. Of course he’s milking it for all its worth, but he got hit by something. Bullet graze, shrapnel graze, shattered glass graze, whatever it was it did hit him.

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    Her statement should make clear that she is only interested in debates hosted by news networks, citing Fox News’ own lawyers who say that they aren’t journalists, but rather “entertainers”.

    Maybe also make a point of refusing to work with an organization that was found liable for defaming voting machine manufacturers and poll workers during the last election.

    There are endless valid reasons for saying no to this debate, and holding Trump to the original debate schedule he already agreed to.

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      I want the debate to happen AFTER Trump is sentenced in DC. Depending on what happens there, the debates topics are vastly different. Making a president into a king with literal life or death powers is a power that Trump will misuse.

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    How long until he throws a fit and stomps off like an angry toddler? I give him 25 minutes (not counting commercial breaks).

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    I cannot stand his voice; I always end up muting the TV and reading the closed captioning. Those poor people that have to do the live captioning though…

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      When Trump was in office foreign translators got a ton of shit for doing thier job. So many non English speaking people thought the translators were drunk. That made more sense at the time than The President of the United States of America actually saying the things he said. There was also the time he got laughed at by the entire United Nations.

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      I can’t either. On the other hand, I’ll take it because he’s going up against a very seasoned prosecuting attorney.

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      Imagine having to stand on that stage and smell that soiled old man. If he stank I would bring that up before answering every question

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    Fucking hell I’m actually excited. If you had asked me literally a month ago I wouldn’t have given a shit and would have laughed if you had told me I’d be interested. Don’t get me wrong I was going to vote either way, but man I cannot wait for Harris to slam the shit out of this dirt bag and make a national embarrassment of him. The shit that worked with Biden sure as hell isn’t going to fly with Harris.