- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
Reddit says Microsoft’s Bing, Anthropic, and Perplexity have scraped its data without permission. “It has been a real pain in the ass to block these companies.”
Reddit says Microsoft’s Bing, Anthropic, and Perplexity have scraped its data without permission. “It has been a real pain in the ass to block these companies.”
is there even anything of value on reddit?
A lot of older posts are still relevant to specific hobbies. I will look up information on paper, some guitar information, but most posts from the last two years are not worth looking at.
There is also so much regurgitated LLM shit.
An absolutely prodigious back catalog of high quality images, interviews, and explainers. A treasure trove of historical content that’s been heavily indexed and participant-weighted for relevancy. And the bulk of it predates the infestation of AI, so its valuable just as sampling data of original human content for further iterative development of ChatGPT and other LLMs.
Reddit remains as valuable as ever. It’s amusing that you think it imploded a year ago just because a small number of users migrated here
It sort of did, thousands of useful comments were turned to gibberish, the mobile web site turned to shot, and the mobile app stopped properly working for communitys with specific content warnings.
Yes, absolutely. Any time I need to buy a product I don’t know much about, I look for an enthusiast community with a FAQ. Most of the active, high-quality communities are on Reddit.
I would like decentralized services to replace that, but that’s a slow process, if it happens at all.
Completely. Lemmy is far too small to have the value Reddit does.
I left Reddit due to their API bullshit, but I so miss all of the hobby communities I was part of, that has like-minded members, and a plethora of resources. It’s not easy to impossible to start communities such as reeftanks, homesteading, literature, bookcirclejerk, etc. on a platform as small as Lemmy. And beyond starting one, the quality and quantity will never match Reddit’s because Lemmy just doesn’t have the same reach.
Lemmy is great if you like Linux, like Star Trek, or are trans, but other than that, it’s missing so, so many demographics that make a wholistic platform.
I feel this so hard, the sheer number of openly LGBTQ+ people here really skews the demographics of the site. I’m not saying it’s a problem, just saying that LGBTQ+ people are dramatically over-represented here. It’s an interesting contributor to lemmy culture, and I wonder how much that impacts homogeneity here (e.g. upvotes and downvotes for certain types of content).
But yeah, it’s missing a lot of demographics.
That said, I’m really into Linux (been using for >15 years), so that’s cool I guess.
As a cis straight man I’m taking this as a learning opportunity until the demographics level out. An inherently inclusive bias will be more helpful early on than more niche communities anyways.
Sure. Again, I’m not saying it’s bad, just that the bias seems to exist.
There are certainly worse biases that exist, such as very little representation from people on the right side of the spectrum, so hate against half the population seems to get a pass and downvotes silence constructive comments/posts just due to political bias. That’s incredibly frustrating, and I think the high focus on supporting LGBTQ+ people goes along with that (i.e. the message that conservatives “hate” LGBTQ+ people, which is only true for the more extreme end of conservatism).
That said, I do like the support LGBTQ+ people get, I just wish the demographics were a bit more diverse without sacrificing the culture. I live and work in a conservative area, but my company has built a pretty inclusive culture (at least for the area), so I think it’s totally possible.
Oh man I don’t miss that at all. Moderating out a pervasive delusion isn’t bias, any more than we’re biased in favor of a round Earth. On Reddit there were constant “enlightened centrists” who kept making appeals to moderation.
There’s nothing of value to be gained from conservatives. The “good” ones who don’t say the homophobia out loud are still voting for politicians who do. If it was just the extreme end, then Trump wouldn’t be their nominee. Hate is their normal now.
This is exactly what I’m talking about: casually dismissing half of the population based on little more than association. That drives division and pushes people into echo chambers.
Understood. I am disagreeing with you. If that wasn’t obvious, then I fear you may have missed my point.
Half of America supporting fascism is reason to create somewhere - anywhere - where that shit is shut down. You’re free to go associate with freeze peach Nazis on X, Facebook, Nostr, wherever. I don’t want any part of that and prefer a server that moderates them out. Paradox of tolerance and all that.
If you all believed the Earth was flat, then I would prefer the “echo chamber” of people saying “no, we checked, it’s round”. There simply being a lot of believers doesn’t imply an idea has merit, and we don’t have infinity time for BS.
But they don’t. I live in a very red state, and most people here dislike Trump and the direction the party is going. They vote Republican more due to habit and because they think Republicans are more likely to keep spending under control. They ignore 99% of what goes on in politics because they have other things going on.
The people you see on X, Facebook, etc are the very vocal minority that the vast majority of people would reject if they heard about them. They’re not “invited” anywhere, they just show up and cause trouble and claim to be part of “the right.” That’s still a problem, but it’s not something “half of America” supports.
I absolutely agree that we should be moderating out fascism and intolerance, but we shouldn’t be creating an ecosystem where something like half of the population feels unwelcome. You’ll change a lot more minds with tolerance and healthy debate than putting up walls.
Nice strawman.
Yes, not all ideas have merit, but generally speaking, the really bad ideas have very little support, and we’re left with a set of reasonable ideas with varying degrees of merit and debating those gives all sides a chance to be educated. However, if there’s opposition to an idea merely because of its source and not its merit, then that’s not healthy at all (and that’s what I’m talking about).
I think all ideas, regardless of source, should be defended by their merits. I personally don’t identify with any party and find policies and arguments from all parties, big and small, to have merit. For example, I like the Ellis Island approach to immigration many Libertarians support. I like the idea of ending the Department of Education as we know it from Republicans (I think fed student loans have done more harm than good). I like the idea of Universal Basic Income from Democrats. I like the carbon tax from the Green Party. I think each of those have strong arguments in favor of them, and I’d like to see more open discussion from all sides about them.
I want a place for real free speech. Not the “free speech” Elon Musk seems to want (rules for thee but not for me), but a place for open minded people to have open discussions, while shutting out intolerance of all types. I don’t trust “big tech” to make such a space, so that leaves communities like lemmy to create such a space.