Joe Biden has called on Congress to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, moments after shocking police video was released showing an Illinois officer fatally shooting Sonya Massey after she called police fearing a home intruder.
In his first public statement since dropping his bid for re-election, Biden said the shooting of Massey, a 36-year-old Black woman, by white Sangamon county sheriff’s deputy Sean Grayson, in her home in Springfield, after a dispute over a pot of boiling water, “reminds us that all too often Black Americans face fears for their safety in ways many of the rest of us do not”.
Biden, who is recovering from Covid at his home in Delaware, said Massey, “a beloved mother, friend, daughter and young Black woman … should be alive today”.
No legal reason? Someone called 911 asking the police to come over… then they found the car… With smashed windows… she denied it was hee car… then says it is her car.
It makes complete sense to get her id at that point considering if she has harmed somebody else… (which it very much looks like she was capable of doing based entirely on her behaviour).
Imagine how bad these cops would have been at their job if she harmed someone else int be days after…a Nd they didn’t even ask for id to check her after being called out.
What? Property ownership doesn’t have anything to do with identification. Police don’t have free reign to force people to identity themselves because a person is unsure of who’s car is on their property. Entering the home is a huge issue as well. I guess a cop can force their way into my home for the unregistered car in my backyard and shoot me too.
I don’t need to imagine anything, that’s slippery slope BS.
Make sure to lick the boot while it’s on your throat.
She called 911, didnt she? & there’s zero evidence of them forcing themselves in. No reason to doubt she didnt say it was ok to enter…
& her behaviour is visible unhinged outside her door… for all the cops know, the person they are talkign to may be the reported prowler (with the actual caller locked inside) IT makes sense from me that they just quickly get id.
As I stated before. Police have no right to identify you just for calling them. Even when a crime is committed verbal confirmation of your identity is more than enough. Identification is not required in the vast majority of situations, including this one. Until you get to the paperwork, then it is correct to identify someone. You’ve watched too many cops episodes or you fundamentally don’t understand American policing.
Forced entry was incorrect on my part. It’s sort of the same situation as shooting that drunk guy in a hotel. Just because someone is unable to respond coherently doesn’t make them the suspect.
You’re entire argument is based on the “what ifs?”. Which is extremely authoritarian.
And how do you excuse her behaviour?
If a police cam of this behaviour came out… and they didn’t ask for her id… And she goes on to harm someone… they would be held partially responsible.
Which is good. Hold police accountable for doing their jobs. Not for ‘not doing their jobs.’
Do you know if she had any warrants or known issues with police/mental health?
Since we are playing hypotheticals. I too agree with executing the mentally unstable.
Oh. I don’t.
Only if they reach for a pot of boiling water after threatening to use it to harm police… and after they lift their weapons and inform them they will fire if the person goes for that weapon. Only in those instances. And similar.
Also, the police could not have known if she was the home owner… She could have been the reported prowler.
They had to check that.