Hunker down and see if the neighbors attack. It’s 50/50 around here. I don’t think my neighbors will attack me but who knows! I’ve got enough guns and ammo to defend myself if it’s not a super heavy attack. Idk, in a civil war, does everyone just start fighting? I’d probably be more careful going to the store…
I’d probably be more careful going to the store…
Robert Evans did a podcast on what it might look like to have a civil war happening here. If I remember correctly it wasn’t so much that neighbors would randomly attack each other, but the travel was definitely different with lots of checkpoints and stuff like that.
“It Could Happen Here” I think it was called.
Become an expatriate.
*immigrant
But yeah, you are welcome here, as far as I am concerned!
Too cold, but thank you. I listened to the Dutch News Podcast during the pan and for a while after and learned a lot about your country. Here’s to your newish underwater bicycle garage!
Huh, now I am curious why you think I am from the Netherlands. You got the continent right tho! :D
Deutsch
On my instance, this is smaller and also bold (maybe that’s on all instances, dunno). It made it harder to read at a glance and I read it as Dutch. Apologies.
Watch the news and be depressed about it I guess. Also, being glad not to live there.
Try to survive?
watch racists lose, again
Doesn’t feel like they’re losing at the moment.
They always lose in the end
It didn’t in 1940 either. Didn’t take them long after that, though.
We haven’t started shooting yet
Looking at how even WWII units were segregated, schools not getting integrated until the '60s, etc. I’m unfortunately not sure they really lost to begin with (which should not be allowed to pass again if there is a next time).
Real talk, it’s going to be like the troubles or the early days of Nazi Germany, not like people forming battle lines and shit. The only way the latter happens is if states secede; one viable scenario I’ve considered is California/Pacifica seceding and a subsequent shooting fight over water rights, because of how much water California gets from the Colorado River basin and other water sources outside its borders. But realistically, it’s going to be shitty partisan on partisan on innocent bystander violence.
Best advice I’ve heard is to form close ties and mutual aid agreements with your neighbors and friends. A small network of people can be far, far, far more resilient in defending protecting themselves than individuals or families can.
It would never happen, no one in CA wants to leave the US and figure out how to maintain a national robust military. Also it’s really unlikely any US armed forces would break off from the US in significant numbers, so if you want to enforce your new country, you need to navigate a potential war with a military that has bases, weapons development, troops, and equipment in the most strategically advantaged locations. You’d need to silently create a counter army, and have VERY risky attacks at nearly every base all the same time, and capture most of the equipment in the process. If you aren’t force marching hundreds of US military people to a secure location, you aren’t winning any war, and the only successful way to exit the US is to have a military strong enough to prevent the US from immediately seizing control of the state, or thinking twice about starting a war.
It’s infinitly easier to use the existing system to progress the country in the direction you want to go over all.
The only way the latter happens is if states secede
Still seems pretty unlikely at this point, but I could maybe see this. Especially with the whole thing around Oregon and Idaho right now. Could start seeing states reform along political boundaries. Those lines aren’t very clean, but they exist.
I think the rural areas would just lose by mass though. Also, nobody seems to understand the co-dependence between urban and rural areas so splitting them up with weaken both.
Best advice I’ve heard is to form close ties and mutual aid agreements with your neighbors and friends. A small network of people can be far, far, far more resilient in defending protecting themselves than individuals or families can.
I read an interview with someone from the war in Bosnia, and he talked about surviving the war. He said big families, in one house, they had an easier war. When shit gets real is when “friends” start to evaporate or turn their back, a lot more than you would think. The single people, or little families off on their own, they mostly didn’t make it.
It’s because that war was about national (racial) and religious identity. Families usually belonged together then.
In Usa it will be a little different. Race would be one aspect, too. But more so your wealth/social status. A struggle between classes. Rich against poor, and many shades in between.
And maybe young against old. Conservativism has gone too far in both (still so-called) parties. “Left” may not be progressive enough anymore.
Best advice I’ve heard is to form close ties and mutual aid agreements with your neighbors and friends.
My neighbors are heavy GOP supporters. The single political sign I’ve ever put in my yard was to support the Pro Reproductive Freedom amendment ballot measure (pro choice amendment, which subsequently passed!). All of my neighbors had signs in their yard opposing it. I had a neighbor that lived a block away stop me while I was mowing my law asking me why I support a law that killed babies and turning kids trans. Nothing in the reproductive freedom amendment language has anything to do with anything trans.
and turning kids trans.
…I’m so confused by his logic.
That’s because it’s not logic
logic
Well, using that word is your first mistake.
Probably get shot by some Y’all Qaeda cosplayer for having a mixed race spouse. Whether this happens before or after my brother gets taken out for being gay is up for debate. I hope my sister is spared because her meathead baby daddy is a right wing useful idiot, but she’s an unmarried bisexual mother and that doesn’t pass the purity test, no sir.
I kinda feel bad for my mom since she was largely apolitical until a black man had the audacity to get elected president, but there’s nothing I can do to stop the parade of leopards once they go face-hunting. Doubly so if I’m dead.
Starve? Die from lack of medicine/doctors? Get killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time?
So like, every day that ends in “y” in the US?
Watch it unfold on TV News, I expect. And then think about it less and less as it begins just another fucked-up thing happening in the world.
We have a bug out spot in a very remote area near the border. It’s where we plan on retiring anyway. Stay the hell out of the way of the war I suppose.
peace the fuck out to europe
Go hang out with my well armed friend on a boat somewhere in the Caribbean.
Not talk about what I’d do if a fascist government were to start looking for people like me.
We shall hide in our secret places. Yes, hide.
I’m getting older, have few weapons and only paintball experience. So I’m of no use in combat. I’m fairly certain foreign powers would get involved, and I’d be curious to see what they do. Getting accurate news and info is difficult right now. I imagine it would be near impossible during a 2nd civil war.
Take the US example and close all EU borders to american refugees. If you still try, we unfortunately have to put you into detention centers.
It’s so hard to get over there as an American anyway! You guys have these standards! And it’s not like we can just swim across the ocean and sneak in!
