• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    18 hours ago

    In China, the large firms and key industries are overwhelmingly publicly owned and planned, and the working class is in control of the state. I never once said capitalism is “when rich people” or that socialism is “when the government does stuff.”

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      18 hours ago

      the large firms and key industries are overwhelmingly publicly owned and planned

      To not too dissimilar an extent as modern Russia

      the working class is in control of the state.

      Do you believe this for North Korea? If so, why not Russia?

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        18 hours ago

        To a very dissimilar extent. The capitalists are in charge of the Russian state, and private ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. Russia has more state-owned firms than some other capitalist countries, but that’s about it, capitalists are thoroughly in control and private ownership is dominant.

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          17 hours ago

          If the capitalists are in charge of the state, they are the state. So it is not privately owned, it is state owned, the state just doesn’t serve the populace. That’s not capitalism.