tankies, the triads of tankies on lemmy. because the left version of MAGA, although they have many parallels of right wings, so basically a mirror version.
Left version of MAGA is when you don’t accept “diversity of opinions” regarding the genocide of Palestinians when you want universal healthcare for everyone, and when primarily you criticize the west as a westerner for engaging in imperialism
I think it’s right to say that Palestinian civilians should be able to live in peace, and it would good if poorer people can get healthcare. On the point of “imperialism”, would you condemn seemingly imperialist behaviour from countries like Russia and China as much as you would condemn imperialist behaviour from western countries? I see users from Lemmy.ml and Hexbear who defend the behaviour of Russia and China for whatever reason.
Tell me a war in which China has participated over the last 30 years. China simply doesn’t engage in remotely imperialist behaviour compared to the west.
As for Russia, I wish it was still a socialist country, but unfortunately now it’s another capitalist antidemocratic regime. Surely since you care about Ukraine, you condemn the capitalist regime in Ukraine which led to the defunding of healthcare, education, the removal of guaranteed housing and guaranteed employment, and a massive demographic crisis of loss of life through hunger, crime, drug abuse and lack of healthcare, which killed millions of Ukrainians prematurely?
Tell me a war in which China has participated over the last 30 years
I guess the answer to my question is “no” then…
China simply doesn’t engage in remotely imperialist behaviour compared to the west
They’re colonising islands in the South China Sea which other South East Asian countries claim, even though a UN tribunal ruled that China’s claims aren’t valid. Also what should people think of seeming mistreatment of ethnic minorities in China? Of course there are examples of western countries mistreating minorities, e.g. the USA interning Japanese-Americans during WW2. I don’t know if the USA is currently doing anything similar to what is described in the article I just linked to though.
Surely since you care about Ukraine, you condemn the capitalist regime in Ukraine which led to the defunding of healthcare, education, the removal of guaranteed housing and guaranteed employment, and a massive demographic crisis of loss of life through hunger, crime, drug abuse and lack of healthcare, which killed millions of Ukrainians prematurely?
Did this happen after the USSR collapsed? I don’t know enough about Ukrainian history to be honest. I do think though that it’s probably a good idea if world borders, such as those of Ukraine currently, aren’t redrawn by force. It’s probably better to settle disputes democratically and diplomatically.
They’re colonising islands in the South China Sea which other South East Asian countries claim
Hardly can you call it “colonize” when there isn’t a population in said islands. At any rate it’s much less violent than the poverty and lack of political representation that Puertoricans are imposed by the US.
mistreatment of ethnic minorities
Oh wow, a BBC article from 2021. Surely we should trust western state media to tell us unbiased facts about its geopolitical opponents. The BBC has famously avoided the word “genocide” for referring to Gaza over the past years, with scandals coming out of editorial orders of employees to avoid such reporting. Taking the BBC seriously on the mistreatment of Muslims in China is as laughable as taking Russia Today seriously on the mistreatment of ethnic Russians in Donetsk.
As for the “mistreatment of Uyghur”. I have had this discussion 50 times in Lemmy: bring me a 2022-2025 source with contemporary independent journalistic accounts of generalized mistreatment of Uyghurs. Not a piece written by Radio Free Asia based on “anonymous witnesses”. Not a piece written by Adrian Zenz based on “official government statistics”. Bring me some, any independent journalistic work post-2021 about mass mistreatment of Uyghurs.
Also, your lack of concern for Ukrainian mass economic and population crisis suggests that your criticism for Russia doesn’t come from a genuine care about the people suffering from the actions of the Russian government, but rather from an agreement with western propaganda.
Hardly can you call it “colonize” when there isn’t a population in said islands. At any rate it’s much less violent than the poverty and lack of political representation that Puertoricans are imposed by the US.
Whatever you call it, I would still say it’s imperialist behaviour of China to take over islands that it doesn’t seem to have a right to. Regarding Puerto Rico, I think they should have proper representation in the US Congress. Are Puerto Ricans being interned in camps like Uyghurs in Xinjiang though?
Taking the BBC seriously on the mistreatment of Muslims in China is as laughable as taking Russia Today seriously on the mistreatment of ethnic Russians in Donetsk.
any independent journalistic work post-2021 about mass mistreatment of Uyghurs
What is wrong with the BBC article I provided? You haven’t shown that the BBC lies or is unreliable. It looks like The Guardian has alsoreported on this story though and here are articles from Sky News.
your lack of concern for Ukrainian mass economic and population crisis
I genuinely am just not aware of what you were referring to. Anyway, I hope that Ukrainians and Russians can live in peace, and preferably with political freedom. The first step towards achieving this would be the Kremlin withdrawing their invasion of Ukraine. I think Ukraine should be able to make their own democratic decisions. Ideally every country should be able to make independent democratic decisions I think.
Are Puerto Ricans being interned in camps like Uyghurs in Xinjiang though?
The reeducation camps were closed years ago. You can travel to Xinjiang yourself and see with your own eyes that the Uyghur are thriving. Go open YouTube and search for travel vlogs in Xinjiang, for real.
RT seems to air lies, while I don’t think the BBC does
BBC was constantly airing lies of the genocidal maniacs of Isntreal, such as mass rapes during Oct 7th in an attempt to do atrocity propaganda against Palestine to justify genocide. They’re literal genocide supporters.
That it’s outdated and based not on independent journalism but on supposed “anonymous interviews”, as all evidence of “mass sterilization” in Xinjiang.
whats wrong with ml?
Lib vs tankie world viewpoint:
There’s a large Marxist-Leninist smear campaign happening on Lemmy right now, with most people centering their hate on users of lemmy.ml
They don’t worship netanyahu fervently enough for the centrists on .world.
are you an .ml alt, or did you rat yourself out?
I’m on .world, but I’m not a centrist. I said “the centrists on .world.”
Take a look and find out for yourself.
The users
Lol
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Anything critical of China or Russia is fake and western propaganda
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You’re a mod there and the only user?? 🤣🤣 Please this can’t be healthy.
hi hexbear alt 👋
Case and fucking point. It’s almost sad. Fuck me
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tankies, the triads of tankies on lemmy. because the left version of MAGA, although they have many parallels of right wings, so basically a mirror version.
Left version of MAGA is when you don’t accept “diversity of opinions” regarding the genocide of Palestinians when you want universal healthcare for everyone, and when primarily you criticize the west as a westerner for engaging in imperialism
I think it’s right to say that Palestinian civilians should be able to live in peace, and it would good if poorer people can get healthcare. On the point of “imperialism”, would you condemn seemingly imperialist behaviour from countries like Russia and China as much as you would condemn imperialist behaviour from western countries? I see users from Lemmy.ml and Hexbear who defend the behaviour of Russia and China for whatever reason.
Tell me a war in which China has participated over the last 30 years. China simply doesn’t engage in remotely imperialist behaviour compared to the west.
As for Russia, I wish it was still a socialist country, but unfortunately now it’s another capitalist antidemocratic regime. Surely since you care about Ukraine, you condemn the capitalist regime in Ukraine which led to the defunding of healthcare, education, the removal of guaranteed housing and guaranteed employment, and a massive demographic crisis of loss of life through hunger, crime, drug abuse and lack of healthcare, which killed millions of Ukrainians prematurely?
I guess the answer to my question is “no” then…
They’re colonising islands in the South China Sea which other South East Asian countries claim, even though a UN tribunal ruled that China’s claims aren’t valid. Also what should people think of seeming mistreatment of ethnic minorities in China? Of course there are examples of western countries mistreating minorities, e.g. the USA interning Japanese-Americans during WW2. I don’t know if the USA is currently doing anything similar to what is described in the article I just linked to though.
Did this happen after the USSR collapsed? I don’t know enough about Ukrainian history to be honest. I do think though that it’s probably a good idea if world borders, such as those of Ukraine currently, aren’t redrawn by force. It’s probably better to settle disputes democratically and diplomatically.
Hardly can you call it “colonize” when there isn’t a population in said islands. At any rate it’s much less violent than the poverty and lack of political representation that Puertoricans are imposed by the US.
Oh wow, a BBC article from 2021. Surely we should trust western state media to tell us unbiased facts about its geopolitical opponents. The BBC has famously avoided the word “genocide” for referring to Gaza over the past years, with scandals coming out of editorial orders of employees to avoid such reporting. Taking the BBC seriously on the mistreatment of Muslims in China is as laughable as taking Russia Today seriously on the mistreatment of ethnic Russians in Donetsk.
As for the “mistreatment of Uyghur”. I have had this discussion 50 times in Lemmy: bring me a 2022-2025 source with contemporary independent journalistic accounts of generalized mistreatment of Uyghurs. Not a piece written by Radio Free Asia based on “anonymous witnesses”. Not a piece written by Adrian Zenz based on “official government statistics”. Bring me some, any independent journalistic work post-2021 about mass mistreatment of Uyghurs.
Also, your lack of concern for Ukrainian mass economic and population crisis suggests that your criticism for Russia doesn’t come from a genuine care about the people suffering from the actions of the Russian government, but rather from an agreement with western propaganda.
Whatever you call it, I would still say it’s imperialist behaviour of China to take over islands that it doesn’t seem to have a right to. Regarding Puerto Rico, I think they should have proper representation in the US Congress. Are Puerto Ricans being interned in camps like Uyghurs in Xinjiang though?
No it isn’t, because RT seems to air lies, while I don’t think the BBC does. For example, RT featured an interview with two Russian military intelligence agents who seemed to have lied to hide the fact that they poisoned Sergei Skripal in England in 2018. Can you provide an example of the BBC doing something like this?
What is wrong with the BBC article I provided? You haven’t shown that the BBC lies or is unreliable. It looks like The Guardian has also reported on this story though and here are articles from Sky News.
I genuinely am just not aware of what you were referring to. Anyway, I hope that Ukrainians and Russians can live in peace, and preferably with political freedom. The first step towards achieving this would be the Kremlin withdrawing their invasion of Ukraine. I think Ukraine should be able to make their own democratic decisions. Ideally every country should be able to make independent democratic decisions I think.
The reeducation camps were closed years ago. You can travel to Xinjiang yourself and see with your own eyes that the Uyghur are thriving. Go open YouTube and search for travel vlogs in Xinjiang, for real.
BBC was constantly airing lies of the genocidal maniacs of Isntreal, such as mass rapes during Oct 7th in an attempt to do atrocity propaganda against Palestine to justify genocide. They’re literal genocide supporters.
Here you have an interview with an openly lying genocide supporter on prime time.
That it’s outdated and based not on independent journalism but on supposed “anonymous interviews”, as all evidence of “mass sterilization” in Xinjiang.
fuck.