PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — His U.S. Senate campaign under fire, Maine Democrat Graham Platner said Wednesday that a tattoo on his chest has been covered to no longer reflect an image widely recognized as a Nazi symbol.
The first-time political candidate said he got the skull and crossbones tattoo in 2007, when he was in his 20s and in the Marine Corps. It happened during a night of drinking while he was on leave in Croatia, he said, adding he was unaware until recently that the image has been associated with Nazi police.
I feel like you missed my point entirely, mostly because to reckon with it would require you to do any amount of introspection [impossible].
Ah yes, the old ‘thinking about implications makes you gullible’ argument. Very airtight.
All language, art, and politics have subtext. Calling attention to subtext isn’t “fuzzy thinking”; it’s analytical. It’s how meaning works.
Ambiguity isn’t the same as confusion or being false; some truths are inferential. Subtext is where ideology hides.
That’s absolutely a nazi tattoo on his chest.
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The fact that someone didn’t continue to respond to you doesn’t make them a liar, however playing dumb about a nazi tattoo you’ve had for 20 years kinda does.
Russia isn’t ‘Israel’; they’ve not been genociding a captive population for the last 80 years. Was America genociding Iraqis when they invaded and Hitchens supported them? does that make him a genocide apologist?
The point isn’t that the US government pulled off some great subterfuge, many people could see what they were doing, even myself as a teenager. What I take from that is you agree that Hitchens also saw that it was a lie, but went along with it anyways. You realize that’s worse than the first option, right? It also doesn’t make his ‘ideological committment’ look like anything other than thinly-veiled xenophobia/racism.
I cited him as a neocon, because from the left perspective, he was. You can ‘want’ lots of nice things, but if you’re spending your time talking about how it’s actually good that the soul harvester is landing on a civilian population, people are going to conclude that you approve of using the soul harvester on civilians.
Calling people tankies is pretty much the first response people here have to hearing a geopolitical opinion they don’t like, feels like obvious gaslighting for you to say otherwise.
Philip, you are describing yourself. You are always losing your shit because you can’t interpret someone disagreeing with you as anything other than hostile people lying about themselves. You surround yourself with nazis to complain about the evil troika. I wish I could say I was surprised that you’re digging in so hard to defend a white guy with a nazi tattoo.
Sounds good. So you’re sticking with Hitchens being a neocon? Why do you think that, without needing to claim something which you then later claim was just you being “provocative”?
Absolutely true. But, if you show you can’t grasp accurately the meaning of the surface and the plain facts, then I’m not going to take you as super qualified to make points about the subtext, or assume that when you said something wrong it was just you making a point about the subtext and let you triangulate yourself away to some point distant from the facts of the matter where you were just saying something so smart that I can’t grasp it.
I thought of something else about this dude who claims he was in the military and so I’m not allowed to disagree with him about these facts he’s claiming. He also claims to have grown up in the same county as Platner (population 16,000). If we assume that the 12,000 active users in !news@lemmy.world are 100% Americans, and the distribution of Lemmy users is perfectly equal between urban and rural, and that it’s one person per user exactly, then the expected value number of people from Piscataquis County here should be 12,000 * 16,000 / 343.6 million = 0.55 users. That’s actually kind of higher than I expected, it doesn’t make it totally outlandish statistically that he is telling the truth about that part even though he’s lying about the military part, but it does make it somewhat unlikely I think when you do the Bayesian analysis.
See? Analysis! I feel like you would really like to get behind this kind of looking behind the text for context and meaning beyond the surface level.
True that.
So it’s more than 80, they’re coming up on the 100-year anniversary. This explains why the Ukrainians are so eagerly vigorous in killing invaders, they know what the endgame could be for them and their families from knuckling under to Russia’s aggression.
Anyway, the point was not that the two states are the same. The point was that you can easily understand how protecting one genocidal murder-state by deleting comments critical of it could be seen as a bootlicking and laughable behavior by moderators, but then all of a sudden when it’s your genocidal murder-state, it’s different.
Also, there’s this and this recent examples of lemmy.ml mods protecting these regimes from criticism by deleting criticism of them. I don’t really care if they are leaving in place your own tepid “critical support” type of criticism. The only posture for a free medium of communication is to allow vigorous criticism of any nation-state.
Again, the failure to do that and active protection-running for friendly aligned nation-states even when they are killing motherfuckers is why they don’t take y’all seriously.
Clearly. Obviously. I mean, describing someone disagreeing with you as “losing your shit” and “calling people tankies” instead of what it is, firm criticism with citations, is part of the spin lemmy.ml likes to apply to anyone who disagrees with them. Cling to it! It will make you feel better.
You keep asking me to answer the same questions, I think I’ve made myself clear. I even linked you his book of articles defending the Iraq war. Why I call him a neocon: he made himself an accomplice to the full-scale invasion of Iraq, defending it publicly in major publications.
re: subtext, the reason I even mentioned Hitchens was because you asked me a diversionary question on an unrelated topic- something you just tried to posture as being outraged at me for doing. You’re clearly looking to provoke a response and certainly not interested in internalizing anything I’m saying.
You will spend endless energy defending white dudes with nazi tattoos complicit in invasions that slaughter millions of people as long as they’re white and appeal to your ‘democratic socialist’ sensibilities.
You linked me examples of my site admin purging content from a user who has demonstrated a willingness to defend literal nazis, if I were in dessalines position I would have banned that user entirely by now.
That community that you frequent is rife with these types of people. I wish I could say I was surprised that the user who can’t stop calling people degenerate roaches was back at it again after only a 7 day slap on the wrist.
You also seem pretty chummy with him, weird how the more I look around you the more fashy shit I see.
You just had a pretty public crashout getting banned for defending the dude who was saying that hexbear users should kill themselves and that they weren’t ‘really’ trans. You did a whole retaliation defed, it was a weird reaction to have when all that’s needed is some self-reflection.
Additionally you just sent me a whole rant about some other person who stopped talking to you in this thread, the topic coming up pretty much out of nowhere. You did link me to them making a reference to being in the military, but didn’t even link me where they claim to live in the same town. I’m not interested in a fishing expedition.
I’m sorry that they stopped talking to you, but I’m also done with giving you social advice at this point.
In fact, after digging up those links and revisiting your recent conduct, I’m questioning why I’m even continuing to talk to you at all.