• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    Yeah, I want to buy a car w/ reduced range at substantially lower prices, but I can’t do that right now. Give me a sub-$20k option to get to work and back and then I’ll get excited about the tech.

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          3 days ago

          Buying new cars is stupid. You wasted several thousand just by driving it out of the dealership. Let someone else do that and buy it a year later with low milage and ten grand off.

          And the Nissan leaf is an absolute joy to drive.

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            3 days ago

            I buy used cars exclusively. A used EV that retails under $20k new will be very affordable used.

            My point isn’t that used cars don’t exist under $20k, my point is that sodium ion batteries are supposed to be way cheaper than lithium ion batteries, and they’re more than sufficient for a commuter. I want those available where I live.

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              2 days ago

              the problem is that North American consumers don’t rationally buy vehicles. They buy $60,000 pickups to commute to office jobs, and they want 500 mile EVs because of “range anxiety” which is likely going to be in the next DVM.

              Sodium batteries have a lower energy density, but they work better in cold temps. They are also inherently safer and last longer, longer than a car will last so they can be reused in the home battery market. Sodium is far less energy intensive to mine.

              Of course, the big problem in NA is all this tech is from China, while we just spent billions on lithium cells. China is making 8K TVs and we’re just tooling up to make 12" Black and white TVs.