Summer Kerksick waited in line for two hours Tuesday to receive a box of canned and dry goods at an event organized by a DC food bank and local religious group for federal workers amid the ongoing government shutdown.
Not paying an employee is simply illegal, and If what is happening in USA now happened here, we have public funds guaranteeing any unpaid employee by any employer get their money. Usually used for private companies that go bankrupt.
Laws in most civilized countries simply say that if new budget is not passed in time the previous budget continues or default budget covering basic expenses (like federal workers salaries, bills etc.) is automatically created. Shutting down government is simply not an option.
True, I have not heard of other countries that do what USA is doing with the shutdown.
Americans are such a bunch of amateurs on democracy, despite they were among the first to use it!
Or maybe because of it? They sorely need a major reform of their democracy. But it looks like it will probably be the wrong way to an even more authoritarian system.
Yep, if a parliament fails to pass budget “Supply” legislation in Australia there’s an automatic procedure that desolves the government and sends them to an election.
And the public hate elections. Do it to them out of sequence without good reason? You’re not getting back in.
I think they can’t because their constitution is a holy text from the heavens and therefore cannot be trashed (or archived) and rewritten from scratch.
It literally has amendments. The latest one was ratified in 1992. The founding fathers considered the constitution to be a living document, hence why there is an amendment process.
Ironically, the people treating the constitution like gospel are the same people that keep ignoring it.
The same founding fathers that apparently thought it was a document that would probably be replaced after a few decades? (Or is this something everyone says that has no basis in reality? )
It’s the thing conservatives do. They just say stuff for effect and don’t care about truth or consistency.
The Constitution is a perfect document that must be upheld when it suits their goals, and a living document that must be updated when that suits their goals instead. They are liars. They should not be accepted in polite society.
The problem is that they were “early adopters” and created a system impossible to reform. Civil war was the perfect moment to do a major rewrite of the system. They had a human rights issue and their system proved completely unable to resolve it. Unfortunately instead of realizing it’s broken and fixing it they did some minor changer and moved on. Now they have a constitution that is more of a holy book than legal document. No one understands it, the laws don’t mean anything but it’s sacred so it’s impossible to even talk about changing it.
Laws in most civilized countries simply say that if new budget is not passed in time the previous budget continues or default budget covering basic expenses (like federal workers salaries, bills etc.) is automatically created. Shutting down government is simply not an option.
True, I have not heard of other countries that do what USA is doing with the shutdown.
Americans are such a bunch of amateurs on democracy, despite they were among the first to use it!
Or maybe because of it? They sorely need a major reform of their democracy. But it looks like it will probably be the wrong way to an even more authoritarian system.
Yep, if a parliament fails to pass budget “Supply” legislation in Australia there’s an automatic procedure that desolves the government and sends them to an election.
And the public hate elections. Do it to them out of sequence without good reason? You’re not getting back in.
And I guess all the ministers lose their seats, that would also be motivation to get it done.
I think they can’t because their constitution is a holy text from the heavens and therefore cannot be trashed (or archived) and rewritten from scratch.
It literally has amendments. The latest one was ratified in 1992. The founding fathers considered the constitution to be a living document, hence why there is an amendment process.
Ironically, the people treating the constitution like gospel are the same people that keep ignoring it.
The same founding fathers that apparently thought it was a document that would probably be replaced after a few decades? (Or is this something everyone says that has no basis in reality? )
It’s the thing conservatives do. They just say stuff for effect and don’t care about truth or consistency.
The Constitution is a perfect document that must be upheld when it suits their goals, and a living document that must be updated when that suits their goals instead. They are liars. They should not be accepted in polite society.
The problem is that they were “early adopters” and created a system impossible to reform. Civil war was the perfect moment to do a major rewrite of the system. They had a human rights issue and their system proved completely unable to resolve it. Unfortunately instead of realizing it’s broken and fixing it they did some minor changer and moved on. Now they have a constitution that is more of a holy book than legal document. No one understands it, the laws don’t mean anything but it’s sacred so it’s impossible to even talk about changing it.