• Iron Lynx@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    We’ve missed the exit for the third-best timeline that still involves That Guy: the one where Donnie bites the dust before the elections. Unless someone fills the guy’s plane with Anthrax or something like that, we’re still on track for locking in the USA as a failed state.

    (the second best timeline with That Guy would be the one where he simply loses the election. The very best would be where the DOJ makes something stick against him & he’s disqualified before the elections.)

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      Let’s also face it, if there’s a candidate that’s so divisive that someone looks at the massive security apparatus for people like him and still think it’s worth trying to assassinate him, that would be grounds - at least for me - to re-evaluate whether the candidate is the right guy.

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        I never understand why lemmy downvotes someone who is trying to help by providing accurate information, presumably because they think that there’s a very small chance that the person they’re replying to isn’t being sarcastic.

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          Funny enough, I wasn’t entirely sarcastic. I’ve seen some trump memes that day and suspected smth happened to him, but they were the 1st to explicitly tell it as far as I remember 😅

  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    My feelings weren’t mixed on Trump. I hope the next person has better aim.

    I was just plain old dad about Richard Simmons, Dr Ruth, and Shannen Doherty. They all deserve better.

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    Nothing mixed. Fully sad he didn’t die and this will cement his win in the coming months. We’re fucked.

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      There’s still time for the DNC to swap Biden out for a more electable candidate and energize their own base again, for what it’s worth, though at this point I think the DNC wants to lose so they can secure more funding.

  • Obinice@lemmy.world
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    I’ve not looked at the news yet, Lemmy was my first stop. I’m thinking… earthquake in the Kremlin?

    There’s a lot of really nice architecture there, it’d be a shame for it to be lost in rubble.

    That, or we got disqualified from the Euros final xD

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        7 months ago

        Trump got shot at. Trump fine (hence the meme), shooter dead, couple bystanders Trump supporters dead.

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            i wouldn’t know, according to them and their folks, my friends and family and I are not people, so I guess my definition of that must differ. moreover, I don’t dispense sympathy for people who would cheer and support the news that me and mine have been hunted down and shot in the street. I don’t sympathize with the aggressors. I’ve just been trying to mind my own business and live my life as best I can, but these people (in sudden newfound need of sympathy and feelings of safety, lmao) have been talking for years of purges of non-Whites and gays, and civil wars, and rounding up the undesirables (that’s me, apparently, by virtue of birth) to clean up the country. might as well be asking me to sympathize with a school shooter over his hearing damage from not wearing earplugs while he mowed down a classroom.

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            We’re getting into paradox of tolerance territory, tbh. I’m not upset that supporters of fascism were killed.

            I am upset that the guy with the rifle didn’t have better aim (if indeed that was actually how everything went down, and it wasn’t staged in one way or another, because there are several fishy things about this).

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                True, but they’re still people. Dehumanizing them because they dehumanized you is another path that I don’t care to see. It’s good to be intolerant of intolerance, but nothing ever gives anyone the privilege to do anything intolerable.

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                  The Nazis sentenced to death at the Nuremberg trials were people, but they still deserved what they got

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                Yep, given the number of places currently ‘technically’ invaded by the country. I guess i guess everyone’s desensitised

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            They are, indeed, people. My point was only that they are not “bystanders”. They are actively involved, and much more so than the average voter.

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      People often talk about going back in time to kill baby Hitler. By all measures Trump would like to be a new Hitler and his most fervent supporters see him as that. Is it surprising people would support such an action to stop him?

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        None of his supporters, unless you’re talking about a very extreme fringe, look at him as Hitler.

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        If you unironically think trump would be a new Hitler, I’m either completely underestimating his threat or you’re batshit fucking insane.

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            Dunno much about it, I’m not american, but at what I could find with a quick online search, it looks pretty awful. Looks nowhere near the control you’d need for a dictatorship.

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      Not only is it terrible, it’s an actual threat to democracy.

      I don’t know how anyone is surprised though. When you use words like “Nazi” and “existential threat” and “threat to our democracy” it can’t be a shock when someone tries to become a historic hero for taking out the supposed next Hitler, and people who buy into that propaganda language are going to cheer them on and want more of it. They’re frothing at the mouth, imagining they’re on the right side of history.

      I get what the Dems are trying to do with pushing that language, but it really is playing with fire. It was a 50/50 chance that they could get him ineligible to run, alive or dead, and they’ve lost each bet.

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        OceanSoap being loaded into the train car: “Ok guys, any minute now will be the prime opportunity to stop these fascist guys. Just remember to consider both sides, they might have a really good reason for taking us out to this isolated camp.”

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          Picking good arguments from both candidates isn’t allowing one to walk all over you,.

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          See they’re having us fill the whole back up again. This isn’t a mass grave. They’re just putting us to work! See creating jobs why complain?

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        Were you asleep the first time he was in office? Read Project 2025. That’s what they plan on doing if he gets elected.

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          I wasn’t. The economy was far better and we didn’t start any new wars.

          I did read project 2025, but Trump has already said that’s not his aim or connect to him. He does have an agenda, but it’s not that one

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        I see republican voters shooting republican candidates as pretty much reasonable outcome rather than some newly emergent threat to democracy. Trump made his image himself, it was him who decided to harass miniorities and brag about reading Mein Kampf often. It was him who made republican message extreme, provoked an insurrection, had all those criminal charges and appointed obviously corrupt judges. He groomed americans into feeling insecure and threatened and radicalized a lot of them. I think random depressed kids trying to suicide by shooting him is the least he should expect, especially seeing that USA has a gun cult focused around right to bear arms against threats to democracy. Also a child rapist, which alone is enough for millions of people to pull the trigger. You’re seriously blaming his bad image on anyone else?

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          Trump made his image himself, it was him who decided to harass miniorities and brag about reading Mein Kampf often.

          The absolute garbage that does be on the internet, honestly.

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            Right, sorry, it was his wife that outed him for having Hitler speeches book “My New Order” back in 1990, which he apparently kept in a cabinet next to his bed. In the interview he also admitted having a copy of Mein Kampf, though he never openly claimed to read that book often. When he quoted Hitler in 2023 he said it was just a coincidence. Which caused no one to feel uneasy, no one at all. His former chief of staff claimed that Trump praised Hitler for doing some good things, like rebuilding the economy.

            So right, sorry, I mixed the “Mein Kampf” for “My New Order”, and it was his wife that outed that, he only confirmed.

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          I mean, he attempted a coup in the same way Biden sent that kid to shoot Trump a few days ago.

          You know what’s more of a threat to democracy? Trying to imprison a political opponent.

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            Do you have a source for Biden paying off that kid?

            Also, Trump should serve time for the financial crimes he committed outside of being president. Him being in prison wouldn’t be that much of an issue for a lot of his fans

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        This feels like some strained both-sidesing here.

        Calling the traitorous self-serving felon that caused an actual attack on the government and the Democratic process “a threat to democracy” seems tame, honestly. And that’s not even getting into his promises to jail political opponents, be a dictator on day one, suspend the constitution, call the free press an enemy of the people, and claim absolute authority and absolute immunity.

        But then that whole political group also seems convinced that a barely progressive status quo “let’s work together” administration is literally totalitarian tyranny.

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          On top of that, if trump would have been killed, there is technically nothing stopping the US from postponing elections, coming up with an intermediate solution to have a functioning government without a D. president (like, no appointing of judges and such) and then have an election next year when the Republicans had enough time to find a new candidate.

          If trump pushes through the things he said he’d do and what his supporters are supporting like project 2025, there’s a real chance that there are no actually democratic elections in 2028. And this is ignoring the fact that gerrymandering and the electoral college are already questionable and regularly abused by or benefit Republicans the most.

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          Yeah, as a joke. Context matters. Like how I don’t think Biden meant he wanted some to shoot trump when he said “put a bullseye on him”.

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            Here’s your broader context, all direct quotes:

            “We’re going to build a wall, and Mexico is going to pay for it”

            “When the looting starts, the shooting starts”

            “I will totally obliterate the deep state”

            IT’S JUST A JOKE BRO, IT’S JUST A PRANK

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    Not mixed, the attempt does not improve or reduce make his ability to run the country. What it does however is increase his chances of winning.

    Gives me Reagan and Hitler vibes.

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      Its disappointing. Good someone had the balls to actually try and show he is serious when he says the 2A is there to prevent fascism. Sad he failed.

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      That it does probably means that Americans deserve whatever lows their country will fall to.

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      Disappoint in not enough to describe my feelings.

      I feel like I’m blocked under a huge building about to collapse at any moment and a huge piece of the support pillar just came off…

      …that’s how i feel right now.