• Gigdragon@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I learned that the guy on the left is Hasan and thr guy on the right is Vaush by the comments. I then spent too long figuring out what the scale was…and it seems to be that there is no difference?

    Both people seem to take fine care of their dogs? Fun fact: Abused animals don’t crawl into your lap and expose their bellies for affection. That is a sign of mutual trust and companionship.

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      6 days ago

      the joke is that hasan had some slander about being a dog abuser and the other guy is a furry i think.

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        I haven’t seen any proof he did do it either. If we’re weighing the circumstantial evidence available? There’s much more pointing towards that dog being treated well than poorly.

        I have also seen a lot of proof that there is a targetted smear campaign against him, which leads me to be a lot more critical of all the info presented by both sides.

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          All of these can be true. It’s obvious at this point that the dog was trained with the shock collar. It’s however well treated besides that.

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            It’s so obvious that the dog was trained with a shock collar that the people pushing the idea have just spent the last few days using a clip with one of Hasans streamer/podcast friends popping his chewing gum into the mic as “proof” he’s clicking a button to shock the dog…

            For a guy who streams 6+ hours 6 days a week and has done for the entire time he’s had the dog.

            Almost like the entire thing is hysteria driven by weirdo freaks who have even weirder hate boners and will make things up based on literally nothing other than circumstance.

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      My philosophy is that I personally don’t know any internet personalities, so can’t defend any actions they made unless they are complete lies. When watching the clip, it wasn’t clear Hasan didn’t shock his dog.

      In the video, Hasan yelled at the dog, reached offscreen, the dog yelped, and Hasan didn’t go to help.

      And I am a Hasanabi fan. I greatly appreciate the work he has done for Palestine, and leftists agenda in the west. There is a universe where Hasan didn’t shock his dog, was just annoyed at it, reached offscreen and for a seperate reason (like the dew claw getting caught), the dog yelped. But since none of us know Hasan personally, or privately, we can’t tell.

      Personally, I lay on the side of not believing it, because although there is evidence that the collar was a shock collar, I have seen streams/clips where Kaya runs around freely, greeting guests etc. Either way I will continue to watch him, because I value his political analysis, but don’t freely defend strangers private lives on the internet.

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        Hasan supports the fascist takeover of Ukraine by Putin. He also supports fascist Iran-backed Hamas, the suppressors of Gaza. People like Hasan drag the left movement into the dirt so we will never take off.

        At best, he is a grifter that found a profitable influencer nieche, at worst he is a psyop to herd and discredit us.

        Also he appears to view himself as his dog’s superior instead of his caretaker, which hints at a right-wing world view. Also shock collar user, so he’s a tormentor.

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        A perfectly reasonable take! I tend to have opinions on public figures because I do think accountability of some kind is more important for them than others. I’m not a fan of ‘cancel culture’, but the inverse of it, which allows a felon as president, is not desirable either.

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      It’s kind of depressing to watch so many people just embrace this kind of naked smearing of someone.

      I don’t know Hasan’s work. I know Vaush, and I think he frankly sucks. In either case, I’d rather people just say, ‘Fuck that guy, I don’t like him as a person’ rather than diving into this practice of labeling everyone you don’t like as a pedo or some other flavor of sick abusive pervert. It’s gross.

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      Hasan (left) and Vaush (right). They are streamers and you kinda have to be terminally online to get the joke. Hasan was recently accused of electrocuting his dog on stream, though without much evidence, and Vaush had is into zoophilia

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            Hassan? pretty underwhelming, in short, dog is walking around on this treadmill kind of thing, looks to me almost obvious that his dew claw got snagged on it and he yelps, roughly at the same time hassan’s hand is out of frame for a few seconds (that some are claiming he is pushing a shock remote).

            oh and someone found a 2 year old clip of him saying that his friend gave him a shock collar that is laying around his house but he’d never use.

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              The dog is a girl, the appears to bend her ankle on the dog bed (it’s a stretchy material, the dog bed is like one of those fancy office chairs’ material) and the yell. Hasan was reaching off frame and that is “evidence” that he “must have” been abusing her with a 10000 volt shock therapy to make her gay or something.

              Imagine that we didn’t even needAI to make people believe fake shit with no evidence.

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        neither am i , but im curious to know why , his political beliefs shouldn’t be much different from most people on this platform

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          Hasan supports the fascist takeover of Ukraine by Putin. He also supports fascist Iran-backed Hamas, the suppressors of Gaza. People like Hasan drag the left movement into the dirt so we will never take off.

          At best, he is a grifter that found a profitable influencer nieche, at worst he is a psyop to herd and discredit us.

          Also he appears to view himself as his dog’s superior instead of his caretaker, which hints at a right-wing world view. Also shock collar user, so he’s a tormentor.

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          He is hypocritical, claiming that he wants liberation and rights for all and then continuing to pay people to torture animals to death so he can get a little pleasure from it.

          I don’t unterstand why people are so hung up on the whole ‘did he schock the dog or not’ thing when they mostly pay for way worse stuff to be done to animals.

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          I’ve just never enjoyed his content tbh. He also encourages faith in American electoralism to an extent that makes me uncomfortable and participates in drama slop too much for me to enjoy.

          I know that last bit may seems strange considering what I have posted but I generally do not directly consume internet drama. I have never seen anything from the channels of either of these people. I just hear about it from other people and go, haha funny.

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          His belief and what he does are totally different. He believes in progressivism, but in practice is a TPOS. I hippo basically.