I haven’t seen any proof he did do it either. If we’re weighing the circumstantial evidence available? There’s much more pointing towards that dog being treated well than poorly.
I have also seen a lot of proof that there is a targetted smear campaign against him, which leads me to be a lot more critical of all the info presented by both sides.
It’s so obvious that the dog was trained with a shock collar that the people pushing the idea have just spent the last few days using a clip with one of Hasans streamer/podcast friends popping his chewing gum into the mic as “proof” he’s clicking a button to shock the dog…
For a guy who streams 6+ hours 6 days a week and has done for the entire time he’s had the dog.
Almost like the entire thing is hysteria driven by weirdo freaks who have even weirder hate boners and will make things up based on literally nothing other than circumstance.
My philosophy is that I personally don’t know any internet personalities, so can’t defend any actions they made unless they are complete lies. When watching the clip, it wasn’t clear Hasan didn’t shock his dog.
In the video, Hasan yelled at the dog, reached offscreen, the dog yelped, and Hasan didn’t go to help.
And I am a Hasanabi fan. I greatly appreciate the work he has done for Palestine, and leftists agenda in the west. There is a universe where Hasan didn’t shock his dog, was just annoyed at it, reached offscreen and for a seperate reason (like the dew claw getting caught), the dog yelped. But since none of us know Hasan personally, or privately, we can’t tell.
Personally, I lay on the side of not believing it, because although there is evidence that the collar was a shock collar, I have seen streams/clips where Kaya runs around freely, greeting guests etc. Either way I will continue to watch him, because I value his political analysis, but don’t freely defend strangers private lives on the internet.
Hasan supports the fascist takeover of Ukraine by Putin. He also supports fascist Iran-backed Hamas, the suppressors of Gaza. People like Hasan drag the left movement into the dirt so we will never take off.
At best, he is a grifter that found a profitable influencer nieche, at worst he is a psyop to herd and discredit us.
Also he appears to view himself as his dog’s superior instead of his caretaker, which hints at a right-wing world view. Also shock collar user, so he’s a tormentor.
A perfectly reasonable take! I tend to have opinions on public figures because I do think accountability of some kind is more important for them than others. I’m not a fan of ‘cancel culture’, but the inverse of it, which allows a felon as president, is not desirable either.
It’s kind of depressing to watch so many people just embrace this kind of naked smearing of someone.
I don’t know Hasan’s work. I know Vaush, and I think he frankly sucks. In either case, I’d rather people just say, ‘Fuck that guy, I don’t like him as a person’ rather than diving into this practice of labeling everyone you don’t like as a pedo or some other flavor of sick abusive pervert. It’s gross.
Just to combat misinfo, Hasan clearly did not shock that dog
Fuck off. There is no proof he didn’t.
I don’t think the burden of proof works like this
I haven’t seen any proof he did do it either. If we’re weighing the circumstantial evidence available? There’s much more pointing towards that dog being treated well than poorly.
I have also seen a lot of proof that there is a targetted smear campaign against him, which leads me to be a lot more critical of all the info presented by both sides.
All of these can be true. It’s obvious at this point that the dog was trained with the shock collar. It’s however well treated besides that.
It’s so obvious that the dog was trained with a shock collar that the people pushing the idea have just spent the last few days using a clip with one of Hasans streamer/podcast friends popping his chewing gum into the mic as “proof” he’s clicking a button to shock the dog…
For a guy who streams 6+ hours 6 days a week and has done for the entire time he’s had the dog.
Almost like the entire thing is hysteria driven by weirdo freaks who have even weirder hate boners and will make things up based on literally nothing other than circumstance.
My philosophy is that I personally don’t know any internet personalities, so can’t defend any actions they made unless they are complete lies. When watching the clip, it wasn’t clear Hasan didn’t shock his dog.
In the video, Hasan yelled at the dog, reached offscreen, the dog yelped, and Hasan didn’t go to help.
And I am a Hasanabi fan. I greatly appreciate the work he has done for Palestine, and leftists agenda in the west. There is a universe where Hasan didn’t shock his dog, was just annoyed at it, reached offscreen and for a seperate reason (like the dew claw getting caught), the dog yelped. But since none of us know Hasan personally, or privately, we can’t tell.
Personally, I lay on the side of not believing it, because although there is evidence that the collar was a shock collar, I have seen streams/clips where Kaya runs around freely, greeting guests etc. Either way I will continue to watch him, because I value his political analysis, but don’t freely defend strangers private lives on the internet.
Hasan supports the fascist takeover of Ukraine by Putin. He also supports fascist Iran-backed Hamas, the suppressors of Gaza. People like Hasan drag the left movement into the dirt so we will never take off.
At best, he is a grifter that found a profitable influencer nieche, at worst he is a psyop to herd and discredit us.
Also he appears to view himself as his dog’s superior instead of his caretaker, which hints at a right-wing world view. Also shock collar user, so he’s a tormentor.
A perfectly reasonable take! I tend to have opinions on public figures because I do think accountability of some kind is more important for them than others. I’m not a fan of ‘cancel culture’, but the inverse of it, which allows a felon as president, is not desirable either.
It’s kind of depressing to watch so many people just embrace this kind of naked smearing of someone.
I don’t know Hasan’s work. I know Vaush, and I think he frankly sucks. In either case, I’d rather people just say, ‘Fuck that guy, I don’t like him as a person’ rather than diving into this practice of labeling everyone you don’t like as a pedo or some other flavor of sick abusive pervert. It’s gross.