• ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    I’m sorry, I’m a little bit lost. I do agree that investment in owning rentals should be forbidden (and if city needs rental units they should be owned by the city).

    I do not agree that “ghost cities” were built for speculative purposes. Speculants were buying them like crazy, yes, but the actual need for housing in regions planned (expected?) to undergo urbanization is real and the buildings were fulfilling that purpose.

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      3 days ago

      Let me guess… is it because the people’s republic is flawless in every concievable way? I saw some footage from someone that was there, not a news agency. I won’t pretend that couldn’t be wrong, but I am known to occasionally enjoy Occam’s razor.

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        3 days ago

        Yeah, my server end with ml so I must be a tankie, makes sense.

        It cannot be that I genuinely appreciate long term vision policies. I must be a tankie. And you’re right, those cities were not needed, and planned urbanization must be planned only 2 years ahead because everything else is speculative bubble made for speculation.

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          2 days ago

          All the projection… You’ll notice I didn’t say you were a tankie, because you obviously are young counter culture honeymoon phase marxist. Please do me a favor and understand that actual communism will never occur either in society or your own philosophy mature, until you recognize flaws cannot be ignored. None of the actual reform leaders were ignorant of that. I also never mentioned any resemblance of urban planning. That the only path to actual societal renaissance and your own personal growth is to understand that if you overreact to something bad such as capitalism you are against the cause. Not for it. You are the breaks on developing real thoughts and ideas, and the reason is simple outrage. The most provenly useless strategy when facing adversity, completely identifiable by anyone past this first easily avoided step in processing and eventually developing personal and unique rational thought about the issue.

          Objectively, it was bad to build unhabitable skyskrapers. It’s humanity. When you attribute it to your ideology you perform a problem.

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            2 days ago

            So you had nothing to say about whats wrong with planned urbanization, so you went again for a personal attack, and switching to something something about marxist or communism because… Well, honestly, I don’t know why nor do I care.

            This is the only thing of value you wrote

            Objectively, it was bad to build unhabitable skyskrapers.

            Yes. Those few bad actors who build tofu buildings in Tukery, Greece, China, Myanmar, Bangkok, or USA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse#%3A~%3Atext=On+July+17%2C+1981%2C+two%2Cweight+it+held+that+night.) or wherever are bad and did wrong. What’s your point?

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              1 day ago

              You know my point. Because you asked for it several times. Then you try your best to have me said something else so you can be outraged.

              Because you need to defend more than learn. You need to defend so much that you create outrage. It’s immature.

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                1 day ago

                Dude, are you like literally crazy? You come here, suddenly start calling me names and now are trying to gaslight me tham I need to defend or some other shit?

                Get help. Blocked.