Eyes Up’s purpose is to “preserve evidence until it can be used in court.” But it has been swept up in Apple’s attack on ICE-spotting apps.
Not surprised at all.
Stuff like this is why Google wants to restrict sideloading to “verified developers” only.
Even if an app like this isn’t distributed through Google Play, they could disable the developer’s account for any vague “abuse” reason.Why can’t this be a web app that uses web notifications? Why does it even need to be an on-device app? That’s building in a vulnerability that doesn’t need to be there.
Make it a site. Go to the site. Pin the site. Allow notifications from site. Done.
Yes, Apple and Google are in the wrong, but why are we relying on them for this at all? Not everything needs to be a fucking app.
What’s even stopping them from just uploading to archive.org?
Cause tech illiterate people need as much friction removed as possible.
This isn’t a tech illiteracy issue. Sure you CAN take a video, and upload it to archive.org from your phone.
Try doing that while actively being abused by ICE.
It’s about making the process as foolproof as possible, because seconds matter here, and making sure that footage is backed up as quickly as possible is paramount.
What a way to say the same thing but differently, well done.
Nope, you’re conflating tech illiteracy with failing to meet the needs of the use case. Hope that helps!
18 U.S.C. § 1519 – „Destruction, Alteration, or Concealment of Evidence“ ?
We need to spread the word of lemmy reddit mods are banning everything
this is why we need to install apps without their approval or verification.
security my ass, they want to stop us from controlling computers.
They want to stop us controlling anything.
i was talking about phones, but yeah. we will own nothing and be happy.
We really need a Linux phone… It’s like the future of democracy depends on it…
Future of democracy in the US relies on the people being vaguely intelligent as a group. Right now tens of millions of people there are straight-up worshipping an obvious fascist as god-king and a sizeable portion of the other chunk is still desperately clinging to the idea of being “moderate”.
A linux phone would be nice but it’s not going to save the world if the people are still dumb and cowardly.
Future of democracy in the US relies on the people being vaguely intelligent as a group.
Yeah, it’s fucked.
The free western world really need to fast track the divide from US controlled tech.
It’s too late. Even without the influence of tech assholes, the western world has gone full fascist and it’s just not coming back to anything safe without a fuckton of Luigi’s.
Unfortunately, the data shows violent uprisings almost always fail.
We need nonviolent action.
Notice I didnt say peaceful.
“Which side did you choose when authoritarianism came to your doorstep?”
Looks like Tim Apple has chosen.
Beholden to the AAPL ticker.
Because corporations suck up to fashists if they are in power. That’s all.
fascists
But fashion? Englisch is weird.
Very.
fashits
Corpos are not your friends. In fact they are usually the enemy.
Better though than Framework who donate to bad open source developers. Hail big corporate! /s
(This isn’t directed at you, I’m more frustrated by the people in the Framework controvery threads who somehow thing buying Apple or Dell is a more ethical choice).
they are
usuallyalways the enemy
Very light on the details here. How did the app do this? What was the functionality of the actual app? From looking at the play store it seems to be basically a LE tracker as well, no matter how much they want to say it isn’t. Getting cute and saying “no my app where you can tag where ICE agents are and upload photos of the ice agents isn’t actually to track ICE agents, it’s just a photo sharing app” doesn’t actually work, no matter how much people on sites like this think it does.
Also lol at this:
Mark asked 404 Media to only use his first name to protect him from retaliation.
He released an app on the apple store, they know who he is.
Well, LE tracking apps should just be allowed, and we should boycott them for not doing so
Not when their sole purpose is to assist in breaking the law.
Unjust laws should be broken, Unjust law enforcement should be obstructed
What unjust laws? Immigration laws? People that break the law getting detained is unjust? Is that you, Jasmine Crocket?
They have a right to fair trial, warrants, and to face their accusors. So long as these remain not done, the enforcement is unjust
Most of them have already had a “fair trial”/warrant/etc and been ordered to leave, and just……didn’t.
No they didn’t. They just said that without proving it, and you believed them despite the cases there they do wrongly deport citizens
I’m glad the google play store never censors apps, oh wait. It’s almost as if big corporations and now governments have no citizens best interests in mind, mind blowing.
“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini
My camera can record videos of ICE abuse. Are they gonna ban that?
They actually did try the years ago. The idea was a signal could be sent to deactivate cameras and microphones on all phones in a vicinity. It was being pitched as a way to stop people from recording a live events like concerts but there was enormous outcry over the potential for abuse so it was dropped.
Technically it’s in place and used for a lot of assistant applications, they just didn’t flip the
$fascistbool yet.
States and cities try to criminalize recording police all the time.
That’s what AI is for
I can’t think of a reason why, with client side scanning, they couldn’t in the near future implement a filter similar to this. Pictures and videos deemed “problematic” could magically disappear. And of course, your iPhone will send a helpful report to the local Gestapo branch. Eventually, “Sorry, network permission is required to run the camera app. You may not capture images of law enforcement activities per executive law. The camera will now be disabled until you comply.”
If only there were such thing as cameras that weren’t integrated into smartphones.
The thing is - the Internet itself is a fascist technology. Fascists, and especially German Nazis, used electric terms and analogies to refer to their politics. Mostly referring to unification of various parts into one network, except in their case the information medium really used was radio.
But the basic idea was that any kind of fascism thrives as means of mass politics. Anything unique, specific, individual is in conflict with that. But the Internet is the tool to slowly grind through that conflict, because it gradually reinforces one voice, one way and one meaning.
It’s a very intelligent trap and one hard to believe in, but our world today is so much more fascist than even in dictatorships 30 years ago, that I think I’m right.
Also consider that the very shock of something so modern and new and comfortable being used as a channel of control is, too, what Nazis did.
And when you want to argue that in the Internet one can post their own opinions and create their own spaces and do their own things, think again. These abilities are inherent to reality as well. Make a thought experiment - could you whisper with your friends at a Nazi meeting in the back rows? Could you not even attend? Could you have private conversations on everything you’d want elsewhere? Yes, these all are true. But the only voices to be heard by everyone and reinforced by that system and order were those from the tribune, and millions of voices would answer them in one and the same way, and millions of hands would raise in salute.
And LLMs and such new tools are going to make this worse, because they are tools of situational speech accord with what you expect, leveled by the common average, just like fascism is an ideology of situational emotional accord with what you feel, leveled by the common average. Fascism is the extreme ideology rejecting logic and semantics, and the Internet on every level has been built to reject logic and semantics as a medium of communication of living people. And LLMs are an even more direct tool to do well only that, all the rest is attempts to sell it, but this is its main trait.
And let’s recall again how that stopped - by spending all its resources and being defeated in a war.
A truly visionary and futuristic regime, honestly. It’s funny how Nazis were so futuristic despite being blood and soil barbarians, and Stalin’s regime was really reactionary despite dreaming of space travel, except Stalin’s regime’s official philosophy was dialectic materialism which is the only thing convenient to describe this contradiction.
Stalin’s regime was really reactionary
Even this is a charitable description. The best term for Stalin’s regime is “despotism”.
That and also anti-intellectualism with ability to physically destroy intellectuals. People like Lysenko and Lepeschinskaya and so on being able to do that to their opponents are, IMHO, the main difference between 20s USSR which was pretty believably in avantgarde and 60s USSR which in all parts of its society just wanted some silent life and no more greatness.
Even when that anti-scientific crap and repressions stopped, Soviet science fiction and Soviet state ideology and Soviet system couldn’t be believed any more. They’ve lost basis in reality.
20s’ USSR had just restored its economy to 1914 levels and above in a few years after WWI, the revolution and the civil war, made a new republic, and seemed a successful resolution of Russia’s early XX century dead end.
60s’ USSR failed agriculture, controlling some of the most agriculturally productive areas on the planet.
Sophistry.
This… Is a very possible future
I banned Apple from my life a long time ago.
Never owned one of their products, not even once. When I realized the iPod didn’t support USB file transfer and they forced you to use iTunes, I knew that they were a bad company and I vowed to never use their products.
Other big companies like Google are not better
I didn’t say they were?
Have you disabled also Google from your life?
Yep. I use Firefox, got a cheap flip phone with potato OS and a mail.com email. Deleting the windows portion of my HD on the 14th. Don’t need any of that shit.
Working on it …
“That makes even, no?”
– Tsar Vlad.
