• John Richard@lemmy.world
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    Where do they go? Do you propose that America has red states where only conservatives should live & blue states where liberals can live? Do you want to put over half of voters in concentration camps?

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      Oh no, the slipperiest of slopes attached to nothing but pure conjecture! I will never be hungry again with all of the words you just put into my mouth!

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          Their point was that kicking someone out of a small club isn’t the same as kicking them out of the state.

          Your exaggeration of their point is what made it bad, not the point itself. That’s what the slippery slope fallacy is.

          They saw no point in debating your exaggerated question because it was so different to their position.

          They showed that they understood your debating technique better than you showed.

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            No, they showed that they wanted to engage in fascist behavior against a majority of voters right (according to polls).

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                I had planned on voting for Biden, but seeing how much Democrats are lying and gaslighting I’m actually thinking about staying home at this point. But you must know, even Biden has a history of questionable behavior with kids, sniffing them, touching them inappropriately, and it appears (according to Snopes) that Ashley Biden wrote about him showering with her and confirmed the diary to be hers in court.

                Furthermore, Trump has not been found guilty of being a pedophile. Democrats had 4 years to bring up charges on Trump being a pedo. They did not do it. Biden doesn’t call Trump a pedo. It is the Democrat voters grasping at straws who are in a cult making accusations rather than presenting policy because they lack intelligence. There is also this:

                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/07/donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuits-norm-lubow

                Even more proof that the Katie Johnson story stinks and the media doesn’t report on it, cause they already investigated it and determined it lacked credibility:

                https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

                Trump may be a pedophile, but to prove that you need a trial and evidence.

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                  Your double standards are striking (across multiple conversations here). In this case you’ve concluded that a girl who got death threats for bringing a case against Trump withdrew, not because of the death threats, but because she was lying, and you’ve equated smelling hair with rape.

                  I once said that I thought that a politician who is famous for some pretty racist policies was probably trying to do the right thing in an admittedly stupidly foolish way on a separate issue, and people got very cross with me online for defending her, but it never once made me inclined to vote for her, that would be idiotic, so I simply don’t believe for a minute you were thinking of voting for Biden. If you want to claim you were prepared to vote for Biden, go on, what was it that made you think he would be a better president than trump?

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                    The reasons I was inclined to vote for Biden is because I am agnostic. I support LGBTQ+ rights. I want to see the government providing more safety nets for people. Trump helped foster the environment for the Jan 6. insurrection. I’m not considering staying home to help Trump win. I’m considering staying home because Democrats actions lately have been gaslighting and lying. The state I’m in is not a swing state.

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        So 30% support fascism according to you, but come elections over 40% are expected to vote for Trump. Who are the other 10%? Are the people voting for RFK Jr. fascist? Would that mean over 50% of Americans are fascist? Do you expect 39% to win in a war against over 50%?

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          If you support a fascist, you are a fascist. It doesn’t matter if you’re brainwashed, a true believer, or just stupid, it doesn’t make you any less dangerous to me or my country.

          You do what the fascists ALWAYS force you to do. What. They. Always. Force. You. To. Do.

          What I expect is for history to repeat itself.

          Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.

          Those who do learn history are doomed to watch those who don’t learn it, repeat it.

          Those who try to keep you from learning history are going to repeat it.

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            According to these facts you present, what you’re suggesting here is is that the following time periods in American history we were ruled by fascists and everyone that voted for those Presidents were fascists?

            2017-2021 2001-2009 1989-1993 1981-1989 1974-1977 1969-1974

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              Lololol. You either are intentionally missing the point and arguing in bad faith or you’re an idiot. We’re done here. I’ll find another 14yld who’s got his shit together to argue with.