I just can’t find a decent email client that looks like it’s from the last 20 years. Geary and Evolution both appear to be pretty modern but something about using Gmail with a Yubikey just doesn’t work and neither of them will connect to my account. Both on Fedora and OpenSUSE. Thunderbird works but it’s so old fashioned and Betterbird doesn’t look much better. What’s everyone else using?
Betterbird (Thunderbird fork) for pc, K-9 for phone.
I was using Thunderbird, but I have had a number of issues with it. Crashing seems to happen whether I use the Flatpak or install from AUR.
I have switched back to using web clients for my mail for the time being.
I am using debias as os , and never had a problem with thunderbird, did you used recently? I am not against web, but i manage 5 emails so no way the web is a option for me. Also i start to use the rss from thunder and is cool.
I have never had thunderbird crash. Not questioning what you say but perhaps its sonsthing else? Did u try deleting thubderbird data and starting fresh ?
I will likely go back and try that. I however know just like in other email clients, if I have thousands of emails per account its bound to be slower. I did clean out each box. I plan to use Thunderbird again once I clear out all of those emails and consolidate to one email address.
I will have to investigate which directories to purge.
My inbox has upward of 17,000 emails and thunderbird doesn’t have any issues with it. So it should be okay with it.
I wonder if it has to to with the email provider or something? It isn’t fast for me but it gets the job done and is stable and predictable even with thousands of emails
Why do you install Thunderbird from the AUR? It’s available on the official repository in Archlinux repos (and all distros based on). And updates are extremely quick. Can’t say anything about the Flatpak version, because I never used it other than “native” installation. I am using it since over a decade and don’t remember having crashes, maybe once in a while (1 time per year maybe fault of something else). I actually use Thunderbird with 5 accounts from different providers, plus use it as my RSS feed reader, because its stable for me.
I know saying “it works for me” won’t help you, but maybe its an indication that something else is wrong. I would recommend to install it from official repository instead.
I may have misspoke, I use an AUR helper to install many programs and utilities, and am not at my computer to view the actual source. So I took a gamble and guessed AUR. My apologies.
It could have been other instability, as I mentioned in another comment I didn’t really look too deep into it since it wasn’t so important. And by no means am I blaming Thunderbird (regardless of source) for the issues I have had. It truly is a great email client.
I see. Well Thunderbird is not the only mail client, there are other good alternatives. Hope you find something that works for you. Who knows what the actual problem is, sometimes one can’t figure it out and has to use an alternative.
I want to investigate it. I know it works well on my laptop, which the big difference in the 2 is that one is an Nvidia GPU and the other an Intel Integrated. So it could be video related. Who knows.
Thank you all the same!
I’m using it on Windows at work and I was also surprised how often it just gets stuck. Deleting the database did help for some time, but then it came back every time I’m sending an email.
I just use Protonmail’s web client. Fast, sleek, similar polish to gmail imo.
For an actual desktop client, Thunderbird with Dark Reader addon and some tweaks for theming.
Honestly though, I just prefer the web client from Proton, it’s really nice.
Wasn’t it supposed to become Thunderbird for android?
You are mistaking KMail (desktop client by KDE) and K-9 Mail (Android client that is being rebranded into Thunderbird for Android).
You are thinking of K9
Oh hi Jure of KDE fame ;)
How is KMail these days? I haven’t used it in years. It always largely worked, but never really exceled at anything.
Protonmail web client and Android app tbh
For work it’s obviously outlook
doesn’t have to be outlook! davmail (configured with the outlook client id) can provide an imap bridge for mbsync, thunderbird, etc to access in even the most restrictive O365 environments.
davmail.oauth.clientId=d3590ed6-52b3-4102-aeff-aad2292ab01c davmail.oauth.redirectUri=urn:ietf:wg:oauth:2.0:oobThat’s great but not that useful or needed. I need full exchange support for calendar, contacts etc. IMAP just doesn’t cut it
For corporate work it’s not really my stance on software that is important, it’s the company’s. And id rather be as frictionless as possible with company policy.
I get not wanting to find yourself in the crosshairs of IT policy people. And more so, having reverence for security measures. But, at least for the enterprise software I interact with, I don’t see security implications and don’t feel the effort to be frictionless is symmetric. I see the opposite. Policies increase insecure behavior and are obstacles to my job.
Methinks those making purchase and policy decisions are not those who interact with the consequences (use the software in anger). I’ve been on the receiving end of some sales pitches – the users are often an afterthought, not a priority. It’s hard to respect the spirit (if not the letter) of bad policies, especially when the polices are hostile to me-the-user and getting-my-job-done.
Currently grinding my gears: Why are we using MS Teams? Why does Teams block firefox (and safari, based on user-agent of all things!)? Why is IMAP disabled?
That’s interesting. Do you know of something that can solve the contacts issue? I have 1 or 2 added contacts in Outlook but 140.000 other employees on the directory. When I need to send a mail I just type the name and Outlook web finds the person. I would really need that for a third party client. Also calendar. My company is super restrictive with this. No smtp access and no easy direct integration. I use web because Outlook (the program, but also everything Microsoft) sucks. On Android I use Outlook but I can’t copy text or take screenshots, which also sucks.
Betterbird
Mutt.
If anyone knows a client that can snooze mail on Proton and Gmail, I’d love to know about it. Until then I’m stuck using the web interfaces and their official phone apps.
I’m curious, how does snoozing help? First I’ve heard of the concept so I’m wondering if I’m missing out.
I found this addon for Thunderbird. Not sure if it’s the kind of thing that will help.
mu4e+mbsync+msmtp
mutt, because it looks like it’s from the last 20 years. Of the 20th century.
SeaMonkey.
I’m lazy - just gmail pinned in a tab on my browser on my Linux desktop, the browser is always open anyway. Default mail client on iOS/iPadOS.
I’ve used Thunderbird in the past. The redesign was nice but it’s still a bit cludgy to use somehow, compared to gmail web.
Thunderbird, much like Firefox, is the best because it’s the least bad.
Thunderbird with the conversations add-on. It’s a game-changer that makes it much easier to transition from Gmail.
Interesting extension, didn’t know about it, thanks!
