- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
Satanic Temple objects to governor’s push for more religion in schools and says members could act as student chaplains
Dark messengers of satanism could soon be walking the hallways of Florida’s public schools, and it’s a consequence of hard-right governor Ron DeSantis’s push for more religion in education.
Members of the Satanic Temple say they are poised to act as volunteer chaplains under a state law that took effect this week opening campuses to “additional counseling and support to students” from outside organizations.
Although HB 931 leaves the implementation of chaplain programs to individual school districts, and only requires schools to list a volunteer’s religion “if any”, DeSantis has made clear its intent is to restore the tenets of Christianity to public education.
Without the bill, DeSantis said at its signing in April: “You’re basically saying that God has no place [on campus]. That’s wrong.”
The satanists see the law, which comes amid a vigorous theocratic drive into education by the religious right nationally, as an equal opportunity: if Christian chaplains are permitted access to students, often at the most vulnerable and impressionable stages of their lives, then so are they.
Probably as good a time as any to point out the satanic church actually sucks: https://youtu.be/3lV8GLQtOTs?si=H-8Obibrpz31jDri
Probably as good a time as any to point out religion across the board actually sucks: reality
Fixed that for you, got you champ!
I’ll add to my other reply that pointing out that the TST has a history of co-opting issues and covering up abuse is a recognition of reality, and that dismissing criticism is exactly the problem with organised religion.
Alright, not really my point but thanks?
I’ll add that pointing out that the TST has a history of co-opting issues and covering up abuse is a recognition of reality, and that dismissing criticism is exactly the problem with organised religion.
While it’s true that theism is inherently harmful, The Satanic Temple isn’t a theistic organization. The problems with TST stem from the shithead that runs the org.
Despite that, they seem to be a problematic, but necessary force to fight religious extremism in the US. I’d prefer it if other secular orgs had the same reach and capabilities, but it seems TST is the best we have at the moment.
This is the Satanic Temple, very different organization that only ever brings itself into the picture when Christians are trying to ram religion down people’s throats.
That’s who I’m talking about, I’ll edit my comment
Also important to point out the Satanic Temple is not the same as the Church of Satan (or Satanic Church as you’ve labeled it here).
Yes, that was a mistake and I have edited my comment. I am talking here about the temple
It’s a shame people are downvoting this, the satanic temple has ties to the far right and is not the great thing people think it is. They make bold claims to get news attention and donations but don’t follow through with action, and in the case of abortion rights claim that joining the temple will grant religious immunity when this is in fact false and actively harmful. Overall they distract attention from real activism without taking any real action. Watch the video essay in the parent comment to get the full picture.
I need to see some receipts for these wild claims.
https://queersatanic.com/
This is discussed in depth in the video linkrd by the subthread post.
Stop thinking in dualities and binaries. It’s not so simple, but to my own dismay, Greaves is indeed a grifter, a chauvanist and all the bigotry that comes with it.
If you give a shit about the downtrodden, for whom the metaphorical Luci Morningstar is held up to empower (it is just an extension of christian lore after all), then listen to the non-men, non-white and queer folks who saw first hand how TST, following in CoS’ footsteps, took advantage of us.
Absolute horseshit nonsense. Anyone reading this person’s comment, please seriously go do your own research on the Satanic Temple. The above are just overt lies. It’s borderline jaw-dropping to see someone writing this with any sincerity. I have been an active member for well over a decade and have been involved in many of the efforts they have supported or spearheaded. Not everyone across an organization can be great, but it’s full of really hard-working and dedicated people. The organization is extremely active across progressive causes and is often the only group actually fighting some of these issues. This article is literally an example of that in action. Like what the actual fuck…
https://queersatanic.com/
This is discussed in depth in the video linkrd by the subthread post.
Stop thinking in dualities and binaries. It’s not so simple, but to my own dismay, Greaves is indeed a grifter, a chauvanist and all the bigotry that comes with it.
If you give a shit about the downtrodden, for whom the metaphorical Luci Morningstar is held up to empower (it is just an extension of christian lore after all), then listen to the non-men, non-white and queer folks who saw first hand how TST, following in CoS’ footsteps, took advantage of us.
Buddy, I am a long-time member of the TST and work with their Salem HQ regularly. I’m not someone who is going to buy what you’re selling here. No organization or cause, especially one like ours, will go without its critics. I also recognize Lucien is far from perfect guy, but we’re also not a cult. Work will go on regardless of what he is doing. It isn’t about any one person. I believe in the work we are doing.
This article is literally about them taking action but OK.
I appreciate you saying this! I didn’t want to type up anything specific myself because it was pretty late and I didn’t have the energy to check any claims.