• 11111one11111@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    I killed the js to remove the pop up blocking the article but Im not sure if this is the entire article:

    The AI bubble is 17 times the size of the dot-com frenzy — and four times the subprime bubble, analyst says

    Artificially low interest rates have stimulated investment into AI that has hit scaling limits, says research firm

    Last Updated: Oct. 3, 2025 at 11:06 a.m. ET First Published: Oct. 3, 2025 at 6:53 a.m. ET

    It’s not just a bubble but an epically sized one, an analyst argues. Photo: Getty Images

    For good reason, it feels that the only major discussion in markets is whether AI is in a bubble or whether it’s actually the early innings of a revolutionary phrase.

    So here’s another one, decidedly from the pessimistic camp. It’s a take from independent research firm the MacroStrategy Partnership, which advises 220 institutional clients, in a note written by analysts including Julien Garran, who previously led UBS’s commodities strategy team.

    Am I missing the real article or is this the entirety of it?

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    10 days ago

    Well, all we need is for the AI companies to jump from where they are now to AGI! It’ll be fine, I’m sure!

  • IWW4@lemmy.zip
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    10 days ago

    Bullshit… Trump is ass rapping Wallstreet, there is no bubble .

    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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      10 days ago

      I think it’s a bit complex to pull off a good short and timing is important. I’m surprised that there hasn’t been an online service that specializes in making short sells more available to more small fry investors. I think it’s really a rich person’s playing field.

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        10 days ago

        You only need a couple grand to open a margin account and buy puts. A put isn’t technically a short but it has a very similar profit profile with lower risk.

        But you’re right that timing is key.

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    I think the difference here is that in both of those previous crashes, the entire market was involved. For AI, only a small number of companies have the resources to really get involved. If this collapses, most people will shrug and go back to whatever they were doing.

    • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      10 days ago

      This is true. The 2008 crisis was about banks. Banks are linked to everything. Most companies aren’t that deep into an AI transition. They can still shrug it off and go back to what they were doing.

      The big tech companies are fucked. The Saudis who just bought EA are fucked (their plan was to reduce costs by making games with a lot of AI tools). Nvidia is really fucked. The rest? They may have to reverse some plans, but they can shrug it off.

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      Not sure I agree.

      First, stocks tend to be highly correlated with “the market” (see financial “β”/“beta coefficient”). For example, look at, say, The Home Depot or Ford Motors. From January 2000 to January 2003 (spanning the dot com bubble) they each lost about a third of their value, yet these are not “dot com”-centric companies.

      Second, the promise of AI is that it will help every company that has desk jobs. So every company has this expectation now priced into their stock, and if the bottom falls out, well…

      Not an analyst/I don’t pick stocks, but just my 2¢.

  • kylie_kraft@lemmy.world
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    the part I like about this is that now people are losing their jobs to AI, but soon people are going to be losing their jobs because AI can’t do jobs

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      And then rest of us lose their jobs because the economy crashes. I am so glad our leaders can see this coming from miles away but will do absolutely nothing about it.

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    10 days ago

    As long as corporations and consumers keep pumping money into technology monopolies it’s not a bubble.

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    Show companies that they don’t need to fear bubble bursts, and they’re make bigger bubbles.

    We’d have been better off letting the 08 crash eat all the corporations. Instead we gave them the money they used to buy up finate resources we have to rent from them.

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      10 days ago

      Well I mean that’s what conservatives do. They talk loudly and then lie behind the scenes.

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      Obama should have partially nationalized any banks that wanted a bail out. Banks are an essential service so there is no reason the govt should not get involved.

      Want $2 billion? US govt gets $2bil in stock of your bank. They were absolutely over a barrel and would have taken the deal.

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        It would have been even better to let them suffer the consequences of their decisions. I am not buying the whole threat to the economy nonsense. That is just propaganda used to convince us it was necessary.

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    If this isn’t adjusted for inflation it’s about 2-2.5x the subprime bubble.