I reported them for harassment with the following statement:
The purpose of this group is to review bomb any game that has gay representation. Their discussion threads talk about using other platforms to discriminate against LGBTQ+ communities and individuals to circumvent Steam’s TOS policies. This type of behavior promotes discrimination, review brigading, and toxicity. It is surprising Steam is tolerating such open homophobia on this platform.
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I get not being interested in games that have strong lgbtq+ themes or story. I’m not, but I’m also glad they exist and people can find games that represent them. I’m also not opposed to playing as an lgbtq+ character in the same way I don’t mind playing as a female character.
Being so close minded you can’t stand for sandbox games to allow you to make a pride flag, or an RPG allow you to make a non binary character is just hateful.
I don’t understand the thought process of following something like this. You’re just going to be seeing content that annoys you and getting mad…
That is the point, yeah. It’s just ragebait, but for the chronically online chuds who fill their days with 2016 era youtube videos that have red arrows on the thumbnail, yellow circles, black outlined white impact font, and then they also have the one picture of that chick yelling when trump got inaugurated.
People get addicted to this kind of stuff because it specifically triggers negative emotions, which they associate to certain phrases, concepts, things, and people, and then they get pushed further and further inward to rationalize it more and more.
You start from a false premise. The reason for curators on Steam is that recommendations pro/against a game appear on the game’s store page.
It allows you to avoid stuff that someone already played and knows you won’t like.
Curators you follow have their reviews pop up in the store page when you’re looking to buy/download something, so if you want to avoid something, like easy anti-cheat, you follow https://store.steampowered.com/curator/32754914-No-To-Easy-Anti-Cheat/ and you’ll get this notice whenever you click on a game that uses it: https://imgur.com/Fvugcm1
WHY IS DEI BAD
Diversity Equity Inclusion. Some businesses have some people to try to make sure their hiring practices aren’t discriminatory, and that’s referred to as DEI.
But racists are against all of those things so to them DEI is a bad thing. And as these things go, DEI has become a codeword they use to express anger at anyone non-white having a job or represented in any kind of media. Like most dog whistles they pretend that they’re cleverly avoiding being overtly racist but it doesn’t fool anyone.
It’s state sponsored racism/sexism.
We should strive to give everyone the same shot, through universal free education, healthcare, etc.
Equality begins at birth, not when you’re just out of high school.
Instead we do a shit job at being a functional society and decide after the fact that none of it matters and you gotta get them quotas going.
As long as DEI, Affirmative Action, Positive Racism w/e you want to call it exists, you will always have people questioning the reason behind a minority person/woman’s employment, and their performance will always be scrutinized harder. Are they actually talented, or are they here to fill a quota? That is a valid question no matter what anyone will say.
This is right on the money.
LGBT is a tag on steam so it’s really redundant, bigots can just filter the tag on their account page.
They don’t want to filter it for themselves, they want to filter it for everybody or better yet, stop it being produced in the first place. They make their tantrums as public as they can for a reason.
You reported the page, did Steam respond?
No and I don’t expect anything to come of it.
Currently, this group does not consider a game “Woke” just because a trans person (or any other type of LGBTQ+ person) is a voice actor for a character in that game.
those things don’t make a difference to the game content itself.
- Unfortunately, Steam’s “hate speech” policy limits what we can say when it comes to particular individuals and entities.
All that being said, I still consider this pertinent information
Yeah, on a platform accessible to children these sort of bigoted reviews shouldn’t be available. They spell it out that they are stating people = bad.
Share this link with steam. It links to what their definition of “woke” is, and it’s egregious enough it should goad Steam to take action.
Thank you. I don’t think I can edit my report but I can send a new one with this included.
EDIT: The mobile app makes it incredibly difficult to report anything.
Yeah, I tried to find a way to report at all from mobile web browser and failed.
Oh no, bro! Hypnospace Outlaw portrays a version of the Internet in 1999 that is more diverse and inclusive than it actually was?? Oh no!
I remember the Internet of 1999. It was full of awesome weirdos. Everyone thought it was great that awesome weirdos had a place to say what they want to say.
If anything, in some senses, the Internet of 1999 was far more diverse and inclusive than the Internet of today.
The funny thing about that is that what makes Hypnospace Outlaw so good is that the era of the internet it portrays was exactly that diverse and inclusive! Yes, there were both women and PoC creating stuff on it long before there were chuds going around calling everything woke. And, you still spend a good portion of that game moderating flame wars between two teenage boys over their made-up girlfriends. So I don’t know where he’s getting an idea that the game is anything but a realistic depiction of that era. Maybe if his awareness of Internet culture only began in the 2010s.
They think old internet was iDubbz types screaming the n-word, racist and homophobic jokes in flash games, and 4chan. One of these chuds were even angry at me when I told them forums had usernames and 4chan was kind of looked down by others for its algorithm rewarding rage baits and similar stuff.
I’d be angry if you told me 4chan had an “algorithm” too… It had a raw ass bump order and that’s it (does that reward rage bait? Kinda yeah but so does any activity metric). Algorithms design to guess what posts you want to see are the worst part of modern social media which refuses to just show you all of a user or group’s posts in order.
It was way more primitive, but post that got more engagement often were on top. This lead to users trying to bait each other for more comments, thus some fame, all without any name.
548 followers, they’re insignificant. Yeah, they suck, but there’s literally a button to make them go away and you never see them again.
“Hm, there’s a couple guys spray painting slurs on my neighbor’s house … better close the blinds so I don’t have to look at it.”
Fallacy of false equivalence. Your example is of actual criminal activity (vandalism) resulting in tangible damages (the vandalized home now needs to be repaired, also surrounding properties lose value due to criminal activity).
Please feel free to try to make your point again, this time without using a logical fallacy or bad faith argument.
Both are about hateful idiots causing harm to someone else and choosing to ignore it.
Fallacy of …
It’s a simile, you dork.
Throwing a blanket over bigots doesn’t solve the problem because they can still recruit other dumbasses to their cause.
If you have a real solution, I’m open to suggestions.
Organize and make a social media disaster for Valve. That usually gets companies like this off their asses.
if/when it happens, I’ll be there for it (I’ll bring friends too). Between now and then, I’m not holding my breath.
Their cause being… recommending against buying some games?
And what are those recommendations exclusively based on? Just because two thoughts in a row give you a nosebleed doesn’t mean everyone falls for such lazy apologism.
the cause is to harass lgbt people until they stop existing. This tiny group is doing so by attacking game developers in possibly the most ineffective way possible. If the group follower count was a couple orders of magnitude larger, then I’d be concerned.
I reported this curator only because it feels like a larger hate group movement in its infancy; Ironically, I got pointed to some gay games that I didn’t know were out there. Some devs are going to get some sales out of me. The woke won’t go broke, DEI to the moon and back!
The list would be pretty good if the games were recommended with the exact same text!
Can anyone make a curator account? Just literally copy and paste every comment, but recommend them all instead. From the couple of posts that people have made, you could probably ratio the original pretty quick.
They could have gotten away with it if they had have just called it “Gaydar”… But “Woke” content detector… That’s just some rightwing neofascist shit.
It’s funny how they can never define “woke” when asked but have no problem labeling any sort of inclusion as woke when they make a list of woke things. To them, woke is just the safe word to say instead of the slurs they want to say.
Woke means constantly forcing leftist issues in everyone’s face in events, places, movies, or anything else that isn’t political. It’s an Incessant virtue signaling forced upon situations and people who are watching sports or having Thanksgiving dinner. Time and place dude.
Conveniently everything is categorized as “white or political,” “cishet or political,” “Christian or political,” so everyone you don’t want to listen to will have to shut up.
No, woke means calling out systemic racism and fighting back against it.
What YOU call “woke” is “my fee fees hurt when straight white man not world savior”
You pathetic shit.
It’s interesting because your examples are things that are absolutely crammed with right wing stuff - all that pro-war military pageantry and flag shagging, a lot of countries have it in degrees but America is intense for it. The right wingers in the sport crowds are loudly political too, and notoriously so at Thanksgiving… and of course capitalism has just totally dominated all these things, superbowl is an advert and merchandising business that has a game go on between the main sponsorship events.
What you’re really talking about is that those capitalists making adverts are trying to appeal to modern demographics and audiences that are no longer impressed by the bland fantasy vision of america which old propaganda relied upon.
What on God’s green earth, are you even talking about ?
Do you not remember where “Let’s go Brandon” came from? Rightwingers interrupted an interview with shoots of “Fuck Joe Biden” and the interviewee tried bring attention back to the interview.
They’re making the (correct) observation that the two things you call out as things people want to “just enjoy” are also filled to the brim with political messaging. You just don’t see it as “political” because you either explicitly, consciously agree with the political messages being conveyed, or because you’re blind to them (either because of an implicit, unconscious agreement with the messaging, or because your environment has normalized the message to the point that you don’t realize it’s political to begin with).
In other words, you say it’s a complaint about “leftist messaging being shoved into nonpolitical things,” but in reality it’s not really being shoved in your face any more than any other type of political messaging, you’re just seeing messaging you either haven’t normalized yet or disagree with, both of which make it stand out more in your brain (either due to the novelty effect, or the backfire effect, respectively).
Translation: including anybody who differs from you in any way.
Coward.
Tofay i learned that the existence of Women, Queer People and Non-whites is political.
Conservatives are using political power to oppress and exterminate such people, so they’ve made it political.
The question now is “what is the appropriate response to those who oppress and exterminate the vulnerable?” Historically, the answer has always involved the use of deadly force.
Here’s a hint dude: there’s politics in everything even if it’s not the main theme. If you don’t like it, it’s probably because you don’t like the politics on display.
No. It’s not that there’s politics in everything, it is more that you insist on making everything political
At least be truthful.
The lion, the witch, and the caucasity of this bitch (Hint: You need to be quite privileged to unironically think like that.)
You treat people existing as political.
Is a gay couple in a movie political?
Why isn’t a straight couple political?
Minorities existing should not be political.
Ok, let’s try this:
Name a piece of media. Any media. Book, film, TV show, game, etc.
I’m sorry? You seem to be under the assumption that I am required to jump at your request.
I don’t owe you anything. Please be insufferable somewhere else.
Protip: I doubt you talk like this to people in real life, bc you’d get your ass handed to you EVERYTIME
I’m under no assumption that you are required to jump at my request. Frankly, I’d prefer you graciously replied to the comment.
Nobody is forcing you here, relax mate, it’s only the internet.
Would sir kindly suggest his favourite piece of non-political media as I would like to indulge.
That’s a really smart move on your part, disengaging with the conversation the moment someone claims they can demonstrate the ridiculousness of your beliefs.
Crisis averted, well done
Politics refers to the systems we create to form and guide the shape of society. Every aspect of existence in society is, by definition, political.
who are watching sports or having Thanksgiving dinner
Did one of your relatives talk too much during sportsball?
No one likes the guy who rants about politicians over thanksgiving dinner.
No one is advocating they want to interrupt dinner time to hold their family hostage to their political stance.
Yeah except in the post they’re trying to argue that LGBTQ people existing in media is woke. News flash LGBTQ people exist and want options in their media to be able to reflect who they are whether that’s through more character customization options or stories that include LGBTQ characters. That shouldn’t be political and at least for some of those things I don’t see why gamers complain like character creation stuff it is literally just giving you more options when you make a character.
It’s not a virtue if it’s just normal. Trying to repress normal things and pretend they don’t exist, and then getting mad anytime you still manage to see them is just a way of life that is going to lead to constantly being angry.
The curator has a review for Summer House that mentions a white kid sitting with a black kid and labels it “subtle pro-DEI messaging”. I didn’t know that black people being included in things makes it woke.
You sound like an incel who’d vote RP. Back to the basement with you.
Just say you don’t like gay people
Why would I say something that isn’t true ?
This comment is an excellent example of how every word uttered by a conservative is either deception or manipulation.
It is not possible for a conservative to enter any conversation in good faith. Honesty is simply not a conservative trait. It never has been.
There is a cure for this plague of conservatism, but it is not a pleasant one.
"I like gay/trans people, but they are a political issue. 🤓☝️"
Pick a lane.
The existence of queer and non-white people is not leftist, it’s objective, observable reality, free of political bias.
There’s no such thing as objective reality. Our existence as trans people is transgressive, implicitly deconstructing white supremacist consensus reality. Trans people are destroying reality 🏳️⚧️ http://soulism.net
Your statement is self contradictory. If Reality is Objective, then it can’t be destroyed.
True reality is objective, and does not exist. Fake consensus reality is not objective, though it claims to be.
Fake consensus reality is not objective, though it claims to be.
I’d like to know an example of what you’re talking about. If you mean Scientific Consensus, it doesn’t claim to be, but it’s a hell of a lot closer to saying “shut up, god did it.”
Sounds more like you found yourself in some youtube hole with a consensus that doesn’t reflect reality.
Sure, here’s an example of a false consensus by society: “there exist such things as human beings”
Can I get a translator for all the emotionally unhinged comments please ?
Sure.
A: “I hate you.”
B: “I hate you too.”
A: “I hate you more.”
B: “Not as much as I hate you.”
A&B: “Bleh.”
is this the wrong time to tell you about white supremacist trans people? do trans persons challenge gender norms? yes. do they challenge racial prejudice? not really. are the two often conflated because the largest supremacist group is hella transphobic, yes.
Consensus reality is an interlocking system of oppressions and bigotries. All the oppressed peoples of the world have a single fight, and it is against realism.
hey it’s fine if you do mushrooms or whatever but can you please keep the insane thoughts to yourself
Everyone knows they exist. I’m not understanding what you’re even trying to attempt at getting at here.
If anything, you should go preach that message to 3rd world countries that kill people for being gay, and not to people who are just minding their dam business, doing whatever they’re doing.
Yeah, I know everyone knows they exist, that’s what “objective, observable reality” referred to. Reread the first part of my comment, that’s the part that directly relates to what you said.
Gay people exist.
BippinThatBop took that personally.
No. It looks like the 20 of you who replied to comment did
Nope woke means being aware of systemic injustices. What you describe is people with a saviour complex being ineffective, annoying, failures at praxis. Alternatively, rightoid snowflakes being triggered by being reminded that people different from them exist. The Acolyte is a nice recent example: It’s no Andor but definitely not a bad show, by recent Star Wars standards definitely one of the good ones. Yet a whole mob of people got triggered because, what, I don’t even get it. And before anyone says “It breaks with canon” no it fucking doesn’t.
I think you’re under the impression that you are smarter then you actually are.
I think you’re under the impression that you are smarter then you actually are.
*than
🤣🤣😂😆🤣
Ehehehe gotem
Is it incessant virtue signaling for your gay son to show up with his boyfriend to dinner?
As a millennial, there were very few games where I wasn’t shuffled into an obligatory straight romance. The only real options were Fable and The Sims. I was desperate enough that I learned to program and mod video games solely to make gay options. Swapped out models, or pain stakingly changed every single “sex == 1” conditional.
I can’t really think of any big games that force you to be gay.
Ok then. You solved your own problem so why are you still bitching lol
Find me a subject that isn’t at all political and you’ll have a very dull subject that has zero potential to affect anyone in any way.
having Thanksgiving dinner
Funny, I always remember is the cranky old men bring up politics during Thanksgiving dinner. I’ll take your word on the movies though. I gave up watching them because I started noticing how conservative movies are. Much easier to find an environmentalist villain then a environmentalist hero.
Either that or you’re fine with people not being able to have a voice as long as you have.
Anything that isn’t a straight white male = woke.
Even that’s woke, according to their definition.
“Straight”—sexuality = woke “White”—race = woke “Male”—gender = woke
I guess games just can’t have any characters in them at all anymore, in case one of them has a race or a gender that gets referenced.
Here’s the groups definition - it’s linked in one of the forums. Your instance might filter some words:
Looks like it’s time to report bomb.
“Immigration is woke but also native people are woke,” and the rest of the list is similarly frothing and delusional. They struggle to finish a sentence without adding a hard R.
Christ almighty. I was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt (and struggling tbh), but this is just inexcusably bad
Wow. I thought to myself surely they would be using some blatant dog whistle for the removed, but nope, steam is fully letting them rate games negatively by using every slur in the book.
This definitely looks much worse for steam than any of these sad, lifeless homunculi. I reported them and made note about how letting this group continue looks awful for steam and not taking action reads as endorsement.
If I didn’t know I wouldn’t get a rational response, I’d love to ask them where it makes sense for those “removeds” to be. Especially in fantasy games.
Are the 'removed’s n-bombs?
Yes.
This looks like it’s for a different steam curator than the one in op’s screenshot. Still probably a tos violation ofc
Its even funnier that they coopted “woke” as a negative term in the first place. Just blatantly telling on themselves.
Yeah it is. I was around when woke first started making its rounds and it was used to describe people who were aware of social injustice against them, mostly black people at the time. I’m not surprised that the word made it into common use, just surprised at the audacity of people using it as a strong negative against equality and inclusion.
About 100 years ago the word was intellectuals.
ITT: Let’s ban and censor anything I don’t agree with.
If it’s profiling based on a hateful agenda, than it can and should be censored. Not censoring that shit is why every single “free speech absolutist” website becomes overrun with racists.
Steam Curators curate recommendation lists that users can subscribe to based on what they like / don’t like.
If I already don’t want to hear anything about LGBT, then I will follow curators like this. It’s not the other way around.
Weird, whenever I want to play a game, I’m looking for what I like, not what I hate.
The OP was recommended this list despite not being a member of it because of the way that curator list recommendations work. If these kinds of discriminatory lists are allowed to promulgate, they could create a culture that is undesirable for Steam as a platform and harmful to LGBT creators, which is why Valve can and should censor these kinds of lists.
hateful agenda
Who defines what this is? Hopefully not anyone with an agenda themselves…
Thanks for the warning label, Steam. You’re doing God’s work.
you’re–this is a joke, right?
Anyone else using this to find new “”“woke”“” games to play? (After reporting for bigotry, of course)
I get sometimes it can get excessive, but c’mon! This is like the equivalent of the 5 yr old with their mother pointing out random shit in public.
Of course Steam tolerates it. Gabe Newell, Steam’s owner, is a hardcore libertarian. I bet he believes that hate speech is free speech.
They will only do anything about it if it will lose them money.
I mean it’s very possible that they simply don’t know about it.
It’s a very small curator.
How is this hate speech? Reviews literally state what is being promoted in the game.
“I don’t recommend this game because it has gay /female/black people in it.”
^ literal hate speech
It’s not.
hate speech is free speech…
…as long as it’s profitable and/or aligns with his own views. I bet if it affected the bottom line he’d quash that speech instantly. Libertarians these days are just misers, they don’t really have principles other than keeping their money away from anything they find disagreeable - which is pretty much everything.
