I would use this app to find the bars that weren’t crowded.
Someone tried this years ago at Startup Weekend (SocicalEyes). It never took off.
I think this is great and don’t understand why so many people balk at it. Do you think you have an expectation of privacy in a bar? And head counts doesn’t tell you how many coeds are there. And this would add an additional layer of security with more eyes able to catch predators spiking drinks or starting fights.
Do you want your drunk antics livestreamed and recorded for the entire world to see forever, instead of just the few people in the bar paying attention?
No, but I’d prevent that by not having drunk antics. It’s not like other people in the bar can’t see you.
If you have nothing to fear, etc etc…
You could also prevent a hostile employer from seeing you out with your same-sex partner by pretending you don’t have one.
Or, keep your honey from finding out about your side piece by putting a mask on their head…
Filing you in public is not a violation of your privacy especially in a limited scope like a single club. That’s not at all equivalent to saying I should be able to read your emails.
Public safety needs to be weighed against civil rights. I don’t think women should be drugged because of a extreme fundamentalist a paranoid interpretation of privacy rights.
Also people want to club where it’s happening. Even if a club has a lot of people they could still not be dancing.
I don’t know what bars you frequent, but I’m pretty sure if someone was in there filming strangers they could be kicked out. It depends what kind of place you’re in. Filming in a strip club for example would obviously be against the rules. Bars are not publicly owned spaces, and you do have some expectation of privacy in them.
You’re out of touch, just visit nearly any page on Instagram to see hours of footage of clubbing and bar hopping.
Well maybe I am out of touch. I don’t frequent bars like I used to.
How many of those Instagram posts are of strangers? If people record themselves at bars and post it, why should I care?
Public safety needs to be weighed against civil rights
Oooo a tankie!
. I don’t think women should be drugged because of a extreme fundamentalist a paranoid interpretation of privacy rights.
Oooo a straw man reducto ad absurdum argument!
Blocked. Buhbye🤖
I’m not a tankie. And clubs already do their own closed circuit TV surveillance. And no my argument is not reducto ad absurdum. There is a growing and pervasive problem with drugging drinks in American bars. I only brought it up as a side benefit anyway. I’d really like the convenience of seeing how hot a bar is instead of having to pay to get in only to see that it’s lame and leave.
You strike me as a very youthful cop tbh, full of weird ideas of how the world works and with righteous belief that you are right and anyone who has a different pov is wrong… But that’s just based on this thread.
“Just go to a fucking bar,” she added, seeming to balk at the purpose of the app. “And if it’s not cool you go to another bar.”
I’d rather not. A way to find a nice bar without having to visit several would be nice, not sure having it all live streamed online is the solution
Silicon Valley once again solving a problem nobody actually has.
I don’t know about nobody. Did you see what “one horny user” wrote?
Inverted alcoholics have this problem…I guess…
You have to drink a lot to become inverted.
Finding a place that’s not too crowded and nice for you is a problem I’ve often had with people.
Where’s my husband? - desperate housewives of silicon valley
I like being able to check how busy a place is, but not like this. Simple head count or an average wait time is good. Using web cams is creepy overkill. Typical tech bro invasive shit.
/stares in smart glasses
Google Maps already provides this, and it’s pretty handy.
I believe they do this the same way they do traffic jams, by seeing how many android phones are at the location vs. average.
iPhones will report it too if they have Maps open.
Easy choice now of which bars to avoid. Hopefully they lose business over it but I doubt it.
As the article indicates, it’s catering to the crowd that wants a packed bar fully of people infatuated with whatever is trending in pop culture.
Lemmy’s user base of bean loving software engineers is not that crowd.
I fucking love beans
It’s your one year anniversary. Happy bean day.
I quit software but I still grow beans!
Beans do be pretty good though.
I was just thinking the other day about how I haven’t had some good baked beans in a while.
I mean I do like beans, but it’s not love. It’s a mutual feeling of appreciation. I think.
I need this for fish and chips shops, minus the cameras part.
Gross
Yeah, I would walk right back out of the bar if I saw they had this.
Good news, looks like they have an app that you can check and see which bars to avoid! Hahaha
This is such a drunk, stupid tech bro idea.
So San Francisco just invented the webcam? (Btw, Google Maps already shows how busy establishments are.)
Doesn’t Google Maps show trends instead of live numbers?
Depends on the area (maybe), but I think it can do either.
It has both.
It also doesn’t have numbers, it has unlabeled columns.
“Busy”, “More busy than usual”,… Not absolute numbers.
I know of a few bars that have/used to have web streams of the bar. Most of them started in the 90s and 00s and I can’t remember if they shut them off after a certain hour or not. Buddy of mine in Florida would go to one of these locations have a cocktail in front of the camera and wave at us while we would freezing our asses off in the northern Midwest
Bar Code was one. Cameras streaming patrons in other franchises in other cities so you could kinda interact with them.
I’m generally in favor of privacy, but a bar is public place. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy. Unless they’re putting cameras in the bathrooms, I don’t see how this is an issue. They likely already have security cameras that are recording, this just makes some of those publicly viewable. Other than an additional layer of convenience, how is this any different from walking into a bar, seeing it’s packed, and leaving.
Fuck that. It absolutely is not a norm to have anyone with an internet connection watch you drink, and making a camera publicly accessible should automatically revoke your liquor license and permanently bar the owner from ever being able to apply for one again.
Sounds like you just made that up.
People absolutely will be stalked and attacked as a direct result of this insane horseshit if it is not shut down.
It is unconditionally not acceptable.
I meant the losing your license part. The rest is NSAs wet dream.
I said you should. It’s that catastrophically dangerous, and it isn’t a mistake.
The potential for misue is too great.
Security cams are not available to anyone - only the bar staff has (hopefully limited) access to the video. While everything is recorded, unless something happens you can be confident the video will end up deleted.
There’s a difference from being watched by some creep through the window and being watched by a dozen creeps wanking off to you in a basment.
I would say the potential for misuse, while definitely present, is outweighed by the potential benefits.
A creep watching you from their basement is less likely to act on their dangerous impulses.
An overcrowded bar, poses a lot of risks in itself and the ability to determine how crowded the bar is without having to be physically present can mitigate your exposure to those risks.
In a crowded bar you have a higher risk of being drugged or assaulted because security and staff will likely be distracted or simply unable to notice and intervene. Also, in the event of an emergency that requires you to be able exit quickly, such as a fire or earthquake not only will it be much more difficult to leave it’s also more likely that people will panic and exasperate the problem.
Is a camera with a public live feed the best way to achieve that? No, probably not. But it’s simple, cheap, and gets the job done.
A bar is also a public venue. In a public place you have absolutely no reasonable expectation of privacy. So, while in most circumstances it’s unreasonable to expect that you’re being recorded, it’s equally unreasonable to expect that you’re not.
You don’t need a video feed to determine how busy a place is. Google maps already does this via people with location reporting turned on.
I’m shocked at what an unpopular thought this is. Like… If you go out in public, there’s a very real risk that people in public will see you. If that’s a concern you have, then you should take steps to not be seen in public. To me, that would mean not making my presence obvious when visiting a bar.
Camera or not, if people are looking for you, they will find ways to look for you in public places. You should always assume you’re being watched, because you probably already are.
That’s fucking insane.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A weird new app lets San Francisco residents monitor local bars via live video feed to see what’s happening there and to check how busy the venues are.
2Nite, which launched earlier this year, uses a network of cameras at various Bay Area establishments to provide remote insights into what’s happening at those locations.
In fact, some local bar patrons have predictably been a bit perturbed (creeped out, even) by an app that remotely monitors them and streams their drunken revelry to an unknown amount of strangers on the internet.
“You should be able to let loose in a bar where Big Brother isn’t watching you,” a young woman told the Standard when asked about the app.
Lucas Harris, the co-founder of 2Nite, has said that businesses that partner with the app are in control of the cameras and that the feeds are mainly meant to “offer a glimpse of live shows at bars, clubs, and other event venues,” the Standard writes.
Harris and his co-founder, Francesco Bini, also told the outlet they had introduced live stream blurring to anonymize the feeds and keep individual partygoers from being identified.
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