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SeaJ@lemm.ee to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

'Brain-in-a-jar' biocomputers can now learn to control robots

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'Brain-in-a-jar' biocomputers can now learn to control robots

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SeaJ@lemm.ee to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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Living brain cells wired into organoid-on-a-chip biocomputers can now learn to drive robots, thanks to an open-source intelligent interaction system called MetaBOC. This remarkable project aims to re-home human brain cells in artificial bodies.
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      Wait, why is his name Robobrain when his brain is the only non-robotic part? Either Robobody or Biobrain/Wetbrain would be more adequate names

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      They are creating Metroids!

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    That raises a lot of ethical concerns. It is not possible to prove or disprove that these synthetic homunculi controllers are sentient and intelligent beings.

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      I’d wager the main reason we can’t prove or disprove that, is because we have no strict definition of intelligence or sentience to begin with.

      For that matter, computers have many more transistors and are already capable of mimicking human emotions - how ethical is that, and why does it differ from bio-based controllers?

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        There is no soul in there. God did not create it. Here you go, religion serving power again.

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        It is frustrating how relevant philosophy of mind becomes in figuring all of this out. I’m more of an engineer at heart and i’d love to say, let’s just build it if we can. But I can see how important that question “what is thinking?” Is becoming.

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        Good point. There is a theory somewhere that loosely states one cannot understand the nature of one’s own intelligence. Iirc it’s a philosophical extension of group/set theory, but it’s been a long time since I looked into any of that so the details are a bit fuzzy. I should look into that again.

        At least with computers we can mathematically prove their limits and state with high confidence that any intelligence they have is mimicry at best. Look into turing completeness and it’s implications for more detailed answers. Computational limits are still limits.

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      we absolutely should not do this until we understand it

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        I think we should still do it, we probably will never understand unless we do it, but we have to accept the possibility that if these synths are indeed sentient then they also deserve the basic rights of intelligent living beings.

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          Slow down… they may deserve the basic rights of living beings, not living intelligent beings.

          Lizards have brains too, but these are not more intelligent than lizards.

          You would try not to step on a lizard if you saw it on the ground, but you wouldn’t think oh, maybe the lizard owns this land, I hope I don’t get sued for trespassing.

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          Can’t say we as a species have a great history of granting rights to others.

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        How would we ever understand it, then?

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        But if we do that, how will we maximize how much money we make off of it? /s

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      Nah it’s okay. I was called all sorts of names and told I was against progress when I raised such concerns, so obviously I was wrong…

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      There are about 90 billion neurons on a human brain. From the article:

      …researchers grew about 800,000 brain cells onto a chip, put it into a simulated environment

      that is far less than I believe would be necessary for anything intelligent emerge from the experiment

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        In a couple years, they’ll be able to make Trump voters.

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        Some amphibians have less than two million.

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          The amount isn’t necessarily an indicator of intelligence, the nunber of connections is very important too

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          RoboCop movies, watch them

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    Which means we may see full organic to digital conversion within he next half century

    Ethical horrors aside, been wondering if that would happen in the forseeable future or not

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bEXefdbQDjw

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      This video is a year old, they’ve made a lot of progress since then.

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      This has to be the smartest channel on YouTube. This guy accomplished some amazing feats!

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    No way this is real. The brain looks like a gyro rotisserie.

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    Murderbot.

    Murrrderbooooot.

    800,000 brain cells played pong.

    Creepy.

    That’s murderbot’s ancestor.

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      Has it asked for any soap operas yet?

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        A scant couple hundred thousand more brain cells and we’ll be there.

        Cheap shot, I’ve never dared a soap opera myself.

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    Now?

    I recall a project that had rat brain cells controlling a turtlebot years ago.

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