President Joe Biden warned Monday that a Supreme Court ruling granting presidents broad immunity from prosecutionwould make an unchecked Republican Donald Trump “more emboldened to do whatever he wants” if he regains the White House in November’s election.

Biden, under intense pressure after his disastrous debate performance against Trump last week, urged Americans to think carefully about their election decision and signaled he had no intention of dropping out of the race.

Criticizing the decision by the court’s conservative majority — which all but guarantees Trump will not face trial in Washington ahead of the November election over his actions during the violent riot on Jan. 6, 2021 — Biden said it now fell to the American people “to do what the courts should have been willing to do but will not.

“The American people have to render judgment about Donald Trump’s behavior.”

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        That’s pretty simple, he could walk outside the White House, declare to the public “I’m on a fuckin’ smoke break bitches” and immediately punch a child in the face. This would be an Unofficial act of the President and a violent crime.

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          Incorrect, because statements the president makes to the public cannot be used as evidence of his acts being unofficial.

          (This was part of the ruling too)

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        Anything, because the SCOTUS decides what is and isn’t “official.” Democrat does it = unofficial. Republican does it = official.

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      First off, he’s the one in office, not me. He’s the one we voted to in to fix this and he hasn’t done that. He already campaigned on the fact that we had to prevent a dictatorship in the last election. That’s the issue at hand here.

      Secondly, he can now legally do anything. So use your creative juices, it’s pretty obvious that he can do something, especially now. Not only was Trump given keys to a dictatorship, Biden was given those same exact keys. It’s time to play hardball.

      Do you really need it spelled out for you?

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      Send out a hit squad on 45 with his new presidential immunity

      Or impeach/remove the corrupt justices and pack the court

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      Get Justice to arrest and imprison Thomas and Alito. Nominate 2 liberals to the Court and get Justice to arrest and imprison McConnell et al when they pull their bullshit. Continue until 2 liberals are seated.

      I fear that if we don’t start playing by their rules, we will have no more stake in the country.

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        All you idiots keep preaching two wrongs making a right. Biden doing this shit would just empower the next republican to do the same. Sliding into tyranny is not ok just cause your side is doing it against the side you don’t like.

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          Are you fucking dense? We’re already past the point of no return. We’re already being victimized by them, and you’re fucking rolling over. Fuck off.

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            What has this ruling done to victimize any of us so far? How is trying to overturn an election an “official” act of the president? I’m not rolling over. I’m pointing out your solution is fucking stupid and not a solution.

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              Are you a bot or are you just blind? Wait for trump to go to office with this power and let’s see how nobody gets victimized.

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                Are you blind? The person said we are currently being victimized. I point out that’s not true and your response is just wait and see??

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                  Trump has already released a list of people he wants to jail, including biden. You are not being victimized yet but they are telling you clearly what is going to happen.

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              Christ on a shitstick - the Supreme Cunts have decreed that one man stands above justice, and you’re out here asking dumbass questions like “HuR hOw DoEs DiS vIcTiMiZe??”

              Fuck off already.

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                Official acts as president. Not unofficial. Official could be seen as airstriking another country. Unofficial can easily be interpreted as trying to steal the election. Yet most of you are out here advocating for biden to set precedent of assassinating an opponent… really makes you wonder what narrative some people are trying to push. Surely seems like destabilizing the remaining bit of a country we have.

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                  As an outsider looking at American politics right now, I don’t see you getting out of a dictatorship and civil war without a lot of realpolitik from the democrats. Assassination may be extreme and strategically unsound for the dems (making Trump a martyr), but as I understand it, it would be feasible to, for example, add 10 more people to the SC, wouldn’t it? Or change electoral laws to make it so convicted felons can’t run for office? Maybe changing first past the post and abolishing the electoral college? I admit I am fairly ignorant of the American system, but wouldn’t those be achievable to Biden if he set his mind to it and damned the consequences (since he can’t be prosecuted for those anyways?)

        • He’s been granted tyrannical power without asking. He should definitely use it to get rid of those trying to destroy democracy, and then also destroy the rules that gave him that power in the first place. Doing absolutely nothing at all and expecting things to get fixed is so beyond stupid, there isn’t even a word for it.

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      Seal Team 6 the supreme court, then have the new justices remove the powers from him. If he is the new dictator then he needs to play the part before Trump dose. Were fucked no matter what.

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      I’m no legal expert, but could he possibly form a judicial ethics committee to investigate supreme court justices. On any evidence of violating ethics, he could sign an arrest warrent to remove them from the court.

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        The supreme court are the only ones responsible for their own ethics. We just recently tried to force this.

        We’re literally a fucking joke of a country. Supreme court “justices” don’t even need any experience whatsoever. You or I could be a justice.

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          So they say, but they also just said the president had immunity for official acts. If Biden did this while at the same time urging Congress to pass judicial ethics laws, who could stop him? Hell, expand it to the federal court system and tell the committee to move fast and prioritize the most unethical judges in key positions and either the Republicans have to play ball with Democrats on passing judicial reform through law or the remaining sane judges reverse a few key decisions to unfuck our current judicial quandary.

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            I agree on this one. The Supreme Court is clearly compromised and needs to be thouroughly investigated for corruption and have their recent, self interest driven rulings revoked.
            It’d be a super presidential act that’d definitely benefit all of us. Guess they can’t charge him for breaking the rules to fix this cluster fuck.

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      The supreme court has basically given Biden the power to act as a King now, then take advantage and…

      1. Dismantle the supreme court, and start the process of HIM choosing who will be the new supreme court.
      2. Imprison all who seek out to destroy our democracy for financial gain.
      3. Forgive all student loans
      4. Change the constitution to codify roe vs wade
      5. Give all homeless a home by taking away property for rent that’s been on the market for more than 6 months.
      6. Dismantle or block the entirety of Project 2025.
      7. Make law that no entity can legally own more than 5 or 10 properties.
      8. Make law that no one that has been recently convicted of a crime in the last year can run for any office (much less the president).
      9. Force term limits on congress and the house.
      10. Force term limits on the supreme court.
      11. Stop treating coorporations as people.
      12. Codify the chrevron ruling that got overturned.
      13. Forgive all medical debts and make Medicaid for all to all americans.
      14. Delist any news organization that either overly exaggerates or lies to the public (ie. Fox, Newsmax, CNN).
      15. Let NOAA make their weather app they wanted.
      16. Implement the green new deal properly now.

      Use the weapons of your enemy against them.

      There probably more this to add, hut that’s just on the top of my mind.

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        The court didn’t grant him more powers to do things like this list, it only grants him immunity from committing crimes.

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          Ok, then he can abuse his power and do these things anyway.

          U mean, this is literally what Trump will do (the anuse of power and illegal shit), and we should not take the high road because WE WILL loose to them.

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        The seal team would call that an illegal order under the ucmj. Hidden couldn’t be prosecuted for giving the order, but the seal team would say no.

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          Has the ruling not fully sunk in for you yet? He could legally find a way to do anything now. He could make it legal and override the ucmj. The hired guns (SEALs or mercs), in this hypothetical, would not say no. Especially not from the commander in chief with new dictator-level powers.

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            He can’t be imprisoned for it. That doesn’t mean what he does is just allowed today any more than it was last week.

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              So, what happens when he officially declares mar-a-lago a threat to national security and takes it out? Because before this ruling, he could’ve been imprisoned at the very least. But somehow it’s still the same now, even after this ruling? If that’s the case, then why did the Supreme Court even rule?

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              Wtf are you on? It DOES mean exactly that. If laws now have no consequences, there are de facto no laws. How can anybody not see this?

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        He is above the law and can’t be prosecuted, but others still can be.

        Ex. he issues an order to seal team six to kill trump.

        Biden can’t be charged for that. But seal team six is still governed by the ucmj. Killing a non combatant for no reason even if the commander in chief gives the order might be a bit of a problem under the ucmj.

        There’s also the oath you take when you join the military

        “Defend the constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic”. Killing a political opponent might be a bit of a problem when a person actually looks at that oath.

        The seal team would probably say no for both of the above reasons. Biden couldn’t be charged but others still can be.

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          Killing a non combatant for no reason even if the commander in chief gives the order might be a bit of a problem under the ucmj.

          Kill them too. 🤷‍♀️

          Also I think a drone strike would be more effective. Biden knows where they live, after all.

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      Jail the conservative justices, expand the court, have Trump shot in the fucking face, and barr any felons from serving or running for President.

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        ? jail them for what? exactly? what law did they break? the courts would release them over night.

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          The notion is to commit a criminal act of false imprisonment, since he is immune from prosecution now. He is allowed to commit crimes, so he should use that power for good instead of just sitting there on his ass waiting for conservatives to show us how it’s done.

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        ban them sounds good on it’s face. but it’s a state issue of who is on the ballet.

        but here is another problem : while biden couldn’t be prosecuted for issuing the order, would the order hold up in court? you know the thing would go before the supreme court. would it hold up there?

        i do like the idea though.