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jeffw@lemmy.worldM to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Banker Who Slugged Woman at NYC Pride Event Charged With Assault

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Banker Who Slugged Woman at NYC Pride Event Charged With Assault

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jeffw@lemmy.worldM to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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Jonathan Kaye turned himself in to New York City authorities a week after resigning from his cushy gig at the prominent investment bank Moelis.
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    IF she threw the liquid at him, and he punched her in retaliation, who’s actually in the wrong, legal-wise?

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      If someone was advancing on him after that it likely could be legally considered self-defense. But it sounds like he was pushing past people to go attack her. That’s not self-defense, that’s revenge.

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        Yeah, it wouldn’t be self defense since he wasn’t in any danger. Possibly provocation as the other commentor pointed out.

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        Unlike crossing state lines to get a gun

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      Him. Provocation is usually a mitigating factor, but not a complete defense, and it’s not like she just randomly threw a drink at him, there was an argument leading to it.

      Even when it would be a defense it certainly wouldn’t excuse him in this circumstance.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_(law)

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        Thanks, that’s the first I’ve heard of this legal concept.

        It may be … sufficient to justify an acquittal, a mitigated sentence or a conviction for a lesser charge. … In extremely rare cases, adequate provocation has resulted in the defendant never being charged with a crime. In one famous example

        Though in this case, doesn’t throwing a drink at somebody in itself constitute an offense of some sort? Could both parties not be prosecuted? I suppose AG bias might come into play then?

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          If he hadn’t assaulted her he might have been able to make her pay his dry cleaning bill.

          You can stop pretending to be a JAQing off American, btw. You outed yourself to all the native speakers.

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            I live in Norway, who’s pretending? Not my fault if you make assumptions.

            If he hadn’t assaulted her he might have been able to make her pay his dry cleaning bill.

            Yes? I don’t quite get the hostility. I’m curious about the legalities, nothing more.

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              Here’s a hint: stop editorializing when you’re JAQing it. Makes it a little obvious.

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                I honestly have no idea what you’re trying to say. I appreciated your 1st explanation. The rest, IDK what’s up with it.

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          What’s the famous exaaaaammmmmpppple?!

          :p

          • AwesomeLowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Buzz Aldrin, punching a flat earther

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              You’re the best!

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        So he should have done nothing then…? You’re all insane here, demanding equal rights then complaining when they’re exercised.

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          🤡

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            Got you a new profile picture. Enjoy, feminazi misandrist :).

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              🤡

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                And now you have a banner too!

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                  🤡

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                    Giving you options :).

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