I don’t mean that the joke just isn’t funny, I want to know a joke that almost makes you want to fast-forward through the scene.

  • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
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    3 个月前

    On arrested development I skip the story arc of episodes related to Maeby tricking people in to thinking her mom is trans so they can be awful to her.

    There is a lot of casual transphobia that was common at the time, but I just can’t fucking stand those scenes.

    • SanguinePar@lemmy.world
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      3 个月前

      Isn’t she just doing that to try and stop Steve Holt from being attracted to her mum instead of to her?

      I don’t think she was trying to get people to be nasty to her particularly, just trying to distract Steve.

      • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
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        3 个月前

        Maeby: And the worst part is he thinks he’s passing.

        Yes, her motivation was make Steve Holt not interested but the fact that it works really makes the whole thing worse. Fundamentally the joke is that Steve wouldn’t be attracted to trans woman, which is what happens. Which honestly makes the whole joke worse.

        And even if you don’t care about that, Maeby’s motivation doesn’t matter because she still uses transphobia as a way to harass Lindsey behind her back.

        I honestly find the whole thing so upsetting and not even remotely funny.

  • Hubbubbub@fedia.io
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    3 个月前

    Here’s the opposite; a joke that I love from a sitcom I hate: “Secret elixir, huh? Well, I’m usually more of a bourbon guy, but when push comes to shove I don’t know what the hell’s in that either.” - Charlie Harper, “Two and a Half Men”

  • z00s@lemmy.world
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    3 个月前

    All sitcom dads being fat, slobbish and painfully stupid and unaware of anything to do with housework, children, or common sense but somehow they all have long-suffering yet weirdly hot wives who just roll their eyes and somehow don’t file for divorce.

    The Simpsons

    King of Queens

    George Lopez’s show

    According to Jim (Belushi)

    Last man standing (Tim Allen)

    Home improvement (Again Tim Allen)

    Everybody loves Raymond

    The entire premise of every one of these shows is HAHAHA DADS ARE IDIOTS HA HAHA

    • Geek_King@lemmy.world
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      3 个月前

      I couldn’t agree more. The idea seemed to have been “Hey, lets take a joke that was just luke warm at best to begin with, and then over use it in an attempt to wring every single spec of amusement out of it until our audience gets physically sick when they hear it”

      Still a fun show though!

            • Zahille7@lemmy.world
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              3 个月前

              Same. Every episode I watched was trying too hard to make the guys relatable because “look at what dorks they are when it’s just the guys! Haha! Isn’t this funny?!”

              Also it felt like a much worse version of Friends.

      • kibiz0r@midwest.socialEnglish
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        3 个月前

        It is kinda brilliant though, the way they set it up.

        If you don’t like the joke, you can always fall back to the meta level: this is a 40-something dad recalling how dumb and cringe-worthy he and his friends were in their 20s.

        • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works
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          3 个月前

          Yeah it’s not really supposed to be “funny”. It’s just Barney being corny because that’s who the character is. (When he’s not being a sociopath with women.)

        • milkisklim@lemm.ee
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          3 个月前

          Plus Old Ted is an unreliable narrator.

          Tap for spoiler

          Old Ted is trying to justify to his kids why he wants to bone one of his best friends’ ex wife,

          The show really should be renamed Why I Want To Sleep With My Old Crush.

      • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        3 个月前

        Sometimes that can happen with a joke - like it’s kind of mid when you first tell it, then you keep pushing it and everyone hates it, then at a certain point something breaks and it becomes the funniest thing ever for some inexplicable reason. Not saying that’s what happened with with this joke necessarily, but it is possible! Old Family Guy used to do it quite well sometimes I think.

  • RoabeArt [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    3 个月前

    This is in a lot of shows and not just sitcoms, but I hate contrived argumentative dialogue that’s set up so that the protagonist always gets the last word with “witty” responses/comebacks. It’s like watching a “I’m the attractive Chad and you are the ugly NPC” meme in real time.

  • Vanth@reddthat.comEnglish
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    3 个月前

    Any sort of “my husband/wife/spouse is lazy/a nag/useless” or from the opposite perspective “I’m lazy/a nag/useless, I’m so lucky my husband/wife/spouse is a sucker and puts up with my bumbling incompetence”.

    Har har har, our culture so overvalues monogamous heterosexual relationships, we’ll stay in a relationship where we are miserable at best, and actively hate each other at worst. We won’t do anything to improve it, just complain. Hilarious.

    • silkroadtraveler@lemmy.today
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      3 个月前

      This is why I avoid watching all commercials in America which inevitably take this trope to the extreme every chance they get. Usually referring to the man who is a doddering incompetent who must be ordered out of his “man cave” to perform some sort of yard or mechanical chore to prove his worth.

    • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 个月前

      I feel like the cursed inverse of this is The Orville, where they’re divorced and then drama and jokes about being divorced is half the show. It was in what I saw of season 1 anyway, it was so relentless I couldn’t stand another minute of it.

      • CynicRaven@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 个月前

        If you can stand a bit more, the show does become a lot more than what those first few episodes imply.

        • BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com
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          3 个月前

          Seconded. Seth had to pitch the show to Fox as a sort of live-action family guy and kept it going for the first few episodes, but it quickly sheds that vibe and keeps getting better.

      • Adderbox76@lemmy.caEnglish
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        3 个月前

        I think Married With Children has managed to come through unscathed because of Ed O’Neil and who he is as a person. He’s so much the opposite of Al Bundy and has always been very open about that. The show as a result falls into that same category as South Park or All in the Family; We understand that the jokes are meant to be satire via absurdity; It’s so over the top and the actor is so different in real life that we just get it.

        Compare that to something like Home Improvement, where we know that the humour isn’t meant to be absurdist, and we know that Tim Allen really is a douche.

  • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    3 个月前

    I am completely done with the “male character says something chauvanistic, female character slaps, that’s the joke.”

    Futurama did it quite a lot, Leela hit Fry a lot, Amy hit him a few times. I done with shows that do that. I see that joke happen again I’ll stop the playback right then and there and cancel whatever service I’m watching it on.

    • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
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      3 个月前

      Not a sitcom joke (yet…) but wow yeah. A moderately funny joke for about a day, but the memes have been tiresome since.

      The poor girl allegedly lost her job as a preschool teacher over it, too.

      • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
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        3 个月前

        The poor girl allegedly lost her job as a preschool teacher over it, too.

        I genuinely don’t know what I’m supposed to do with that information. It was an outlandish thing to say and arguably funny. Plus, she knew she was being recorded and maybe even signed a release.

        Am I supposed to be angry at the person interviewing people on the street? Other people for sharing it? Her former employer? Myself for laughing?

        • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
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          3 个月前

          Oh that’s good to hear. And somewhat surprising, considering how easily memes get ripped off by random strangers for profit.

  • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
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    3 个月前

    How rude they are to Jerry in Parks & Rec. Doing a rewatch of it now and wow it is way worse than I remembered, and starts way earlier. It’s not a flanderisation thing, there was a season 2 joke that made me have to pause and go online just to see how many other people felt the same way as me.

      • BitSound@lemmy.world
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        3 个月前

        I think it works there because it’s just Michael Scott that despises him, everyone else sees him as fairly normal from what I recall.

        • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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          3 个月前

          Tobi really is a lonely creep tho. Sometimes Michael goes way too far, and its ironic because they’re not super different in terms of being socially awkward and loners

    • Stovetop@lemmy.world
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      3 个月前

      Agreed. The only redeeming thing I can give the writers credit for is that they gave him an amazing family life. Even though he is the office punching bag, he is much more fulfilled outside of work than any other character is. That, and he also does love his job.

    • SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
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      3 个月前

      I was kinda uncomfortable with his interactions with Chris. Chris was my favorite in the show and even his meanness towards Jerry was off-putting.

    • sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works
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      3 个月前

      I find it funny because of the sheer absurdity of it. There’s absolutely no reason to dislike Jerry. He affable and unassuming, a good family man and just generally a good guy. Yet everyone inexplicably hates him, even Chris. It’s makes absolutely no sense and that disconnect is what makes it funny to me.

      If they hated him for a reason it would be mean spirited. Instead, it’s just over the top silly and fits in with the humor of the show.

      The bit where Leslie throws his painting in the lake is one of my favorite moments. It’s just so exorbitantly stupid that it makes me laugh.

      • Frozengyro@lemmy.world
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        3 个月前

        It feels cringe (to me) cause these type of people are often bullied in real life work places, again with no real reason.

      • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
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        3 个月前

        Personally I don’t have as much of an issue with when they’re poking fun at him per se, but when they denegrate or damage things he has clearly worked hard on and put a lot of passion into, that’s crossing a line for me. It becomes incredibly mean-spirited.

        There are two examples in this compilation video. One at the linked time, and another at 6:33. Especially with how happy he is to see Leslie in the second clip until she destroys his art. It’s honestly heart-breaking. The pie to the face that came a little bit before that was also hard to watch and really felt mean. Dunno if that’s because of how cold and calculated it was (vs the more usual off-the-cuff comments), or because it was a physical act rather than verbal, or something else. But I didn’t like it.

      • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        3 个月前

        It’s the opposite of the Lil’ Sebastian thing, where there’s that horse that everyone idolizes for no discernible reason. Although with that, there’s the one character who doesn’t understand why they do that, so maybe that’s what the Jerry thing needed? Or perhaps that would have made it even sadder lol.

    • Seraph@fedia.io
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      3 个月前

      Definitely agree. I know it’s supposed to be a joke “he’s such a great guy we hate him” but it’s physically hard to watch.

    • BitSound@lemmy.world
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      3 个月前

      Watching Parks & Rec for the first time, and I also noticed this. IMO it’s missing something, maybe if only one of the characters acted that way towards him or something it would be better. He’s pretty much Meg from Family Guy, and I never really cared for that dynamic either.

  • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.eeEnglish
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    3 个月前

    I hate how in Disney family sitcoms as well as some cartoons, there’s always the stock dumb kid that gives the majority of the humor, and it’s humor that gets old.

      • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.eeEnglish
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        3 个月前

        The example I think that got me to dislike the trope was in Austin and Ally. The character Desmond was eating a muffin with the muffin wrapper on, and one of the characters mentioned you “have to remove the wrapper before eating it”, so he removes the wrapper and throws the muffin away and starts eating the wrapper because that’s how he interpreted their advice. And I’m thinking has there ever been a teenager who didn’t have some instinct on how to eat a muffin.

      • Zahille7@lemmy.world
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        3 个月前

        One character I actually really like because he makes fun of the trope (at least in one episode), is Barry from American Dad!

    • callouscomic@lemm.eeEnglish
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      3 个月前

      I grow tired of how all the Pixar style movies use the same facial visual gags. They’re all kinda samey.

  • callouscomic@lemm.eeEnglish
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    3 个月前

    Any kind of overt and heavily pushed version of their stereotyped personality is the joke.

  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    3 个月前

    Pretty much every segment of Jerry’s stand up routine in Seinfeld. I have no idea how that man became a famous comedian.

  • VanHalbgott@lemmus.orgEnglish
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    3 个月前

    Every joke in The Amazing World of Gumball.

    Whether it’s visual gags, exaggerated takes, fourth-wall gags, deconstructed gags, pop culture references, or even forced bait-and-switch gags.

    The blue cat boy himself is insufferable and his family and friends and all the other characters and how they’re all written are just as unlikable to me…it’s like Family Guy mixed with South Park but marketed towards a children’s network.