• NotSteve_@piefed.ca
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    How does this work for countries outside of the US? Will Canadian and European TikTok get the propaganda too or will the US version be self contained?

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    TikTok has been faithfully pushing US propaganda for years. Mintpress News put out an article on it. Control of the US servers was handed over to Oracle, who let the State Dept have full control of what to censor.

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    It will be a shadow of his former self being run by these hacks. There are two greedy and short-sighted to run a growing platform.

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      Don’t underestimate the stupidity and calcification of tiktok users, they’ll just stick around having never heard of the sale. They won’t even question why their feed is now a nonstop loop of Kirk clips.

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      What? I’m not sure how it is in the US but in many countries zoomers (men) are very right wing. These are the guys that watch rogan and Andrew Tate.

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        I literally only ever had a twitter account… when Elon announced he was buying it, and I created that account soley in order to scream at him untill I was banned, probably by him personally.

        All these short form, highly algorithmically manipulated communication platforms have given everyone brainrot, ruined their attention spans, made everyone angry stupid and tribal, and spread astounding amounts of mis and disinformation.

        It was all downhill after Facebook introduced Farmville, and fully realized that every aspect of the human psyche can be gamified and manipulated.

        If you do not realize that persistent exposure to a dopamine delivery device has fucked up nearly everyone on a fundamental level, and has created addiction/withdrawal behaviors in a large subset of those people, particularly if they’ve been exposed since a young age, you are either an addict in denial yourself, or you have not read enough of the studies on this.

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          dopamine delivery device

          I’d even go so far as to say it’s a dual-dopamine-plus-cortisol device. For as many things on the internet that give people joy, there are probably as many if not more things that make people angry. And the algorithms are very good and pressing both buttons simultaneously (the meme of a superhero sweating looking at two buttons need not apply).

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            Yes, I was oversimplifying a bit.

            It is also cortisol… it is so many other things.

            A little bit of everything, all of the time, perfectly optimized to exaggerate whatever tendencies or interests you have into a targetted, pigeonholed exaggeration.

            It destroys the capacity for critical thought, reduces everything to inter and intra group, micro or macro politics…

            And all of it… ostensibly, to sell fucking ads.

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    I remember when Rupert Murdoch’s company, News Corporation, bought Myspace. Maybe US TikTok will see the same fate

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    If I was in the USA, I would be ready to run real quick. The crackdown on the left is just beginning, get ready for massive surveillance, fully controlled media, reeducation camps, etc. GAFAM are all bending to the dictator. It’s not a question of if, it’s a question of when and how.

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        I’m Canadian and I don’t feel safe either. It’s a new era of global fascism and surveillance, most of us wont be safe anywhere. Call me paranoid, but I’m already working on a escape and I wont ever disclose details online. Crazy times.

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      I’m just hoping we don’t get to the point where I feel compelled to leave.

      In the meantime, I’m looking for parts of the world where I could live for an extended period of time in case the worst happens. I don’t think we’ll get there, but it’s always good to have a backup plan.

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        IDK, what’s happening now has nothing to do with the usual capitalist propaganda and brainwashing of the past decades. I agree most of the west hasn’t seen any real left govern states since the end of the 70s, but at then pace things are going and unless something huge happens, I guarantee you will soon look at the past years as some decent times

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      Myself and most of my family are fleeing next week, and I’m still worried that this infection will spread to where we’re going. They want this to be global.

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    It was already a propaganda mill. Now it will be for the Nazis instead of China.

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      Oh it’s been working for GovCo and Israel since it came back from the 1 day ban and Shou started licking Chumps ass. The change was immediate and noticeable.

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        Yup every top comment on TikTok now is almost always the most divisive shit. I assume they’re doing the equivalent of reddits “sort by controversial”. It changed as soon as it came back.

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      It will actually be for both! Emphasis on the part of the article where it says China will still have a stake of 20% in the company, AND they get to keep the algorithm.

      All the US is doing is buying up physical assets and infrastructure, and the user base. The juicy bits they wanted, they didn’t get. Everyone is likely going to jump off of TikTok the moment it comes time to segment the US market from the Rest of the World. China doesn’t have to do a thing because Douyin is already maintained separately for the Chinese market.

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        The thing that will kill this is forcing users to migrate to a new app. Removing the largest friction barrier that prevents people from leaving your app by forcing them to cross it is a great way to scatter the TikTok userbase to the four winds.

        I hope this kills TikTok, and that the people who enjoyed using it remember who was responsible for it.

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        China doesn’t have to do a thing because Douyin is already maintained separately for the Chinese market.

        Nobody really wanted to grapple with the reality. They just saw “Chinese investors mean Communist propaganda means Americans most be protected from the thing”. Then Cold War brainrot kicked in and that was that.

        A country that fumbles this hard doesn’t deserve to exist.

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          It’s the same kind of people who think Socialism means Communism, without realizing that anything funded by taxpayers is already, technically, a socialized knowledge/service/product. That includes the roads their vehicles drive on and the military if you want to put it that far.

          One might incorporate principles of the other, but that doesn’t make it the other product automatically.

          In the meantime, the Poopaganda machine will continue running with the kind of ignorance being shown.

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    When the state is worried about “foreign” surveillance, propaganda, etc., it’s really just worried that it’s not doing the surveillance, propaganda, etc.