There have been rumors that both of the guy’s legs were broken. IDK whether this is just the coroner’s office clearing up wild social media speculation, or if they’re so brazen about a coverup that they’re willing to lie about the state of his body, but that’s why they specifically talked about broken limbs.
Presumably they’re going to release the body to the family at some point, and at that stage it’ll become obvious whether the legs are broken or not broken. It would have to be a pretty shockingly brazen coverup for that part of the story to be true and covered up.
It would have to be a pretty shockingly brazen coverup for that part of the story to be true and covered up.
I agree, and at the same time… I can still see it as a possibility given everything else going on. There are plenty of ways “unfortunate mishandling” can happen.
I have even lower trust these days. There is so much willingness to blatantly lie all the way up to the federal level that I doubt I would trust any report produced. Not to say I’d assume it was something else, just that I have virtually zero trust in the police there or the coroner.
What I said was there is entirely the possibility of “Oops! His body went to the furnace instead”, or “oh no! The body was mishandled and fell”, or a whole variety of other things.
Off the top of my head, I can recall cases where:
The body is sent to the wrong place
The wrong body is sent to the right place
Bodies not kept at temperature and then sent for cremation
Bodies suffered damage due to falling down stairs
Mishandling of bodies and reporting with the specific intent to cover up crimes (CA Sheriffs office, I remember this one distinctly, because they were protecting cops)
I’m saying its not a guarantee until the body of this kid ends up with the family, and given the history in this particular area… I have little to no trust of those involved.
What I said was there is entirely the possibility of “Oops! His body went to the furnace instead”, or “oh no! The body was mishandled and fell”, or a whole variety of other things.
I mean, there’s a possibility that Mossad killed Charlie Kirk. And sure, if something happens that leads towards that conclusion then it’ll be extremely revealing about whether or not that’s a reasonable conclusion.
IDK what type of argument you’re looking to have here which leads you to keep repeatedly emphasizing your side of this thing, but I am planning to stop now on my side. Have a blessed day.
Fair enough. I didn’t misunderstand anything, I just wasn’t real overt about responding to it directly I guess.
As I see it, there are two possibilities:
They give the body back to the family and the legs are fine
They give it but the legs are broken, or they cremate it first, or they refuse to give it back, or basically anything other than that first thing
In the second case, there’s fuckery by the coroner. In the first case, there’s not (which of course doesn’t mean he wasn’t lynched of course). I just don’t get how trust for the coroner or police needs to enter into that equation in any capacity. Sure, if they fuck with the body or have some ridiculous excuse for why the legs were broken, then it also means that the coroner is dirty and trying a coverup for some horrendous reason. But it’s not like the original question is going to stay as an unknowable thing.
People have this kind of knee-jerk “the system is going to lie about everything” reaction which sometimes makes them kind of throw up their hands on the concept of every getting to the bottom of anything, and I think that’s insidious, especially when they start inserting all kinds of speculation and saying it’s a possibility so who knows. We’re going to be able to tell if his legs were broken or not with a pretty high degree of certainty at some point in the pretty near future. I feel like it’s good to hold onto that ability to make sense of the world instead of retreating into nihilism and just assuming everyone’s probably lying and giving up. Doesn’t that make some sense?
There have been rumors that both of the guy’s legs were broken. IDK whether this is just the coroner’s office clearing up wild social media speculation, or if they’re so brazen about a coverup that they’re willing to lie about the state of his body, but that’s why they specifically talked about broken limbs.
Supposedly the autopsy report will be released in full, but as you say - if they are willing to cover it up then the report won’t matter.
An independent review would be needed, which, with this admin especially, isn’t going to happen.
Presumably they’re going to release the body to the family at some point, and at that stage it’ll become obvious whether the legs are broken or not broken. It would have to be a pretty shockingly brazen coverup for that part of the story to be true and covered up.
“Oops, we accidentally cremated him.”
Correct, that kind of thing has happened before. That would be a shockingly brazen coverup.
I agree, and at the same time… I can still see it as a possibility given everything else going on. There are plenty of ways “unfortunate mishandling” can happen.
I have even lower trust these days. There is so much willingness to blatantly lie all the way up to the federal level that I doubt I would trust any report produced. Not to say I’d assume it was something else, just that I have virtually zero trust in the police there or the coroner.
What I’m saying is that you do not have to trust the police or the coroner in order to know whether the guy’s legs were actually broken.
I understood entirely.
What I said was there is entirely the possibility of “Oops! His body went to the furnace instead”, or “oh no! The body was mishandled and fell”, or a whole variety of other things.
Off the top of my head, I can recall cases where:
I’m saying its not a guarantee until the body of this kid ends up with the family, and given the history in this particular area… I have little to no trust of those involved.
I mean, there’s a possibility that Mossad killed Charlie Kirk. And sure, if something happens that leads towards that conclusion then it’ll be extremely revealing about whether or not that’s a reasonable conclusion.
IDK what type of argument you’re looking to have here which leads you to keep repeatedly emphasizing your side of this thing, but I am planning to stop now on my side. Have a blessed day.
I wasn’t having an argument.
I agreed with you. And then I said I have little trust in those responsible for handling things, making it a concern.
Then you seemed to completely misunderstand what I said, so I clarified.
Not everything is an argument, sometimes a comment is just additional thoughts.
Fair enough. I didn’t misunderstand anything, I just wasn’t real overt about responding to it directly I guess.
As I see it, there are two possibilities:
In the second case, there’s fuckery by the coroner. In the first case, there’s not (which of course doesn’t mean he wasn’t lynched of course). I just don’t get how trust for the coroner or police needs to enter into that equation in any capacity. Sure, if they fuck with the body or have some ridiculous excuse for why the legs were broken, then it also means that the coroner is dirty and trying a coverup for some horrendous reason. But it’s not like the original question is going to stay as an unknowable thing.
People have this kind of knee-jerk “the system is going to lie about everything” reaction which sometimes makes them kind of throw up their hands on the concept of every getting to the bottom of anything, and I think that’s insidious, especially when they start inserting all kinds of speculation and saying it’s a possibility so who knows. We’re going to be able to tell if his legs were broken or not with a pretty high degree of certainty at some point in the pretty near future. I feel like it’s good to hold onto that ability to make sense of the world instead of retreating into nihilism and just assuming everyone’s probably lying and giving up. Doesn’t that make some sense?