See, Apple? Even cars can do it :)

  • fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org
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    5 months ago

    Do people even need a car for a 3 miles trip? You can cover that on a bike in 15-20 mins at a chill pace… Also, 28% of trips are less than a mile? People can’t walk a mile?

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      5 months ago

      Not speaking for other places, but America is not made for bikes or pedestrians. It is actively hostile to them in the best cases, and filled with explicit murderous intent in others.

      Drivers will actually, actively, try to hit you for daring to take to the roads. And you have to take the road because we have sparse or missing pedestrian sidewalks.

      I wouldn’t wish biking 3 miles in most American cities on anyone used to a properly designed nation.

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        5 months ago

        Sadly, you are speaking for a great many places. I’ve cycled in most of the countries I’ve visited and it can be relatively dangerous.

        If people want to see how to integrate a public transport network with a cycle path network, places like Netherlands and Denmark are leading the way.

        Over here in the UK we have one of the most regressive attitudes to sustainable transport in Europe. Our trains don’t work and cycling is barely tolerated.

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          5 months ago

          This is just anecdotal, but as someone who both drives and cycles in the UK, I’d say it’s city dependent. I live in Leeds, go to uni in Leeds and work in Huddersfield. I cycle to uni, cycle to the train station and drive to work (when I can’t get a train for whatever reason). Leeds is getting there, albeit slowly but it’s getting alot better for cyclists. I like the electric bicycle scheme so I can cycle to the station and just leave the bike there. although it shouldn’t be more expensive than getting a bus.

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        5 months ago

        The Dutch do it… Rain or shine (mostly rain with crazy wind) with their cargo/kid bikes.

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            5 months ago

            So just lazy then?

            I live on the Dutch coast and still cycle despite constantly shit weather.

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                5 months ago

                Sounds like you’re stressed from all those kids! Have you tried cycling? It’s a great outlet and stress relief

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                    5 months ago

                    Weight training is very nice for muscle growth and all, but have you tried cycling as a healthy cardio alternative?

                    If almost a third of trips are less than a mile I feel like the cars are being overused… I am not dismissing the legitimate reasons like rain or carrying kids, although umbrellas and covered strollers have been invented, but I doubt that contributes much to that statistic. If I were to guess, many of these short trips are to the closest mcdonald’s drive-through, but regardless.

                    If gas prices weren’t so low(because the US spread freedom to every oil rich country to ensure that), I am pretty sure these statistics would look a lot different. I am sure the urban planning and missing sidewalks don’t help, but if fuel was more expensive there would be a lot more people walking, therefore creating incentive for a change.