Look at my new phone!
That’s literally the audience these “boutique” phones are for.
Who needs or wants this. The use is quite limited. One fold, alright, but 3??
Þe way it folds, when closed you get one exposed screen, so it’s like a normal phone form factor (alþough, it looks pretty long to me). When open, it’s a tablet wiþ a bigger, more normal-sized, tablet screen þan þe truncated bifolds.
Apparently, enough people want foldables þat Apple decided to release one - or were you asking why anyone would want a larger screen?
As long as it wasn’t too cumbersome as a phone, the option to have a full on tablet that could fit in your pocket is somewhat attractive. I don’t have much use for a phone that folds into a bigger phone (current foldable market), but if this was done right I could see some appeal.
i’m the opposite way. i see no use for a phone that folds in half. i like my phones to be usable one-handed, and having a clamshell shape that folds out into something i can’t reach my thumb over is just dumb. but if i can have a normalish candybar phone that unfolds into a whole-ass tablet in my pocket? absolutely.
…but not for $2500. maybe for like… $1000. that’s twice what i paid for my last phone.
I see your three and raise you seven.
I’ll be releasing 15 fold shortly, hold on to yo butts!
Eventually they‘ll go full circle (literally) and come back to scrolls.
the only advantage i can think of is to maintain more traditional tablet aspect ratios. single fold phones tend to have a very square screen when opened.
looks like shit
I saw an 85" Samsung TV for $1000 at walmart today.
Kinda crazy (stupid) how people spend that much on a fucking phone.
The cost of that TV is heavily subsidized on the expectation that you connect it to the internet and it feeds Samsung data on you.
Whole that may be somewhat true, I don’t think the magnitude of that expectation is that huge.
I’m not saying they don’t track, I’m saying the amount of money they expect from it is not as large as hundreds of dollars a unit.
I used to run trainings on personal cybersecurity and explaining to people how much their data is worth. I’ve been paid to study this.
So, specific data about what you’re worth to a company is proprietary. I can’t find a link to a PWC or McKinsey report, but IoT device data typically sells for a range that’s an estimate of cost per user per year. On the upper end, I’ve seen estimates of up to $50 per user per year. Low end is $1. So if the assumed lifetime of the TV is 4 years and a “household” is 2 adults and 2 kids, you end up at ($50x2 and $25 x 2)= $150 x 4 years = $600. So if Samsung sudsidizes the cost of a smart TV by $400, they’re coming out ahead $200 on average, just on the subsidy. That’s the kind of math going on for TV sales. Again, that’s proprietary data, so short of trying to track down reports I saw years ago, all I can explain is that data monetization is a well-known cornerstone of business. Here’s a quote for you about companies needing to know the value:
The exact same dataset, when sold to a financial services company, was being used to make multimillion-dollar decisions, so the data aggregator could charge $100,000. https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/what-data-wrapping-and-how-does-it-make-products-better
That’s for companies operating legally and in the clear. What’s crazy is that our data is treated sort of like student loan debt with them, because it’s seen by them as debt we owe to the company and paid back over the life of the device. For criminals, it’s pennies-on-the-dollar fire sales because nothing is guaranteed to work. So the data needed to steal your identity as a single line on a spreadsheet might only be $20 a person because the list of 10,000 records might only contain 200 winners. So you buy a $200,000 spreadsheet and hope to commit at least $1,000 per successful hit to come out ahead. which is a fairly low bar for fraud. Then the whole list is burned and you start over.
Interesting, but is that figure among those that actually register with the built in smart tv, or average for all purchases? The attach rate i would think for the smart features would be challenged by google and apple and roku pushing streaming sticks. The streaming sticks can probably just assume 100% attach but still seem to price with a little positive margin.
Just don’t do that? The same argument could be made for their phones.
I think you’re talking out of your ass.
Oh my sweet summer child. The privacy community is all over this and any economics course will explain how we got here.
Anyone making equipment needs to come in just below competitors in terms of price. How? By using telemetry and data collection to sell for advertising. This is seen as a subsidy to make the equipment more competitive to get it in more homes for long-term rent-seeking for income lasting years from every user. Same as with any smart appliance. The TV, connected to the internet, monitors what you watch even when you’ve connected by HDMI.
Can you just not connect the TV? Absolutely, yes. That’s how low the bar is, that simply not giving the TV a connection and using 1 extra device in between is all it takes to come out ahead. That’s a gamble worth it to Samsung. I have a Samsung TV, and that’s all I need to do to come out ahead. But many, many people think the TV needs to do it all and just give it a data connection.
Honestly, if I could get a phone that unfolds to a tablet size like that + Desktop Mode, I’d combine it with a portable keyboard and trackpad combo and be perfectly happy using that as my laptop solution. One cellular plan, large screen, and super portable too, not to mention phone controllers like the GameSir and Backbone for when I want something more gaming handheld-esque, Linux ARM64 virtual machines, and more!
Bro just use a laptop.
I just want a phone that can fold out for reading comics, sounds pretty nice, only reason I bought a tablet was the constant zooming required, I forget to bring my tablet places constantly or just don’t want to because its another thing to carry around
It would be nice if one of the folds could be left folded at the bottom to give you a keyboard.
Exactly. Think the iPad Smart Connector, and even better with a Magic Keyboard-type hinge that could hold the device up when you didn’t need a folio-type stand.
Not really - keyboards need to be much farther from the screen than that. Laptops are terrible for the same reason. Maybe your body can accept that bad ergonomics, but mine cannot. which is why I carry a separate keyboard for my laptop and phone. (plus mechanical keyboards are much better anyway)
I mean I wouldn’t look at this as a laptop replacement, just something I could use that way in a pinch. Lots of clamshell phones in the early 2000’s had this layout and it worked pretty well.
If you really wanted to use this as a laptop much better to carry another little folding keyboard with you.
It’d be good for comic ebooks, PDFs, documents. Pretty much stuff you’d use with a tablet. I see the appeal of a one device covers it all. Phone, tablet, if it had a solid desktop mode, office productivity. Don’t have faith in these mobile first OSs to do it all well though
That looks really hard to hold.
Edit: also, it’s less than half the speed of a year old iPhone according to geekbench scores… so wooo I guess.
Powered by Huawei’s self-developed Kirin 9020 chipset and running on the company’s proprietary HarmonyOS ecosystem, the Mate XTs boasted a 36 per cent performance improvement, Richard Yu Chengdong, chairman of Huawei’s consumer business group, said during the launch event in Shenzhen on Thursday.
Honestly the iPhone performance is over rated now.
I just came from an Android 9 Razer Phone 2 (with an ancient SD845) to a brand new iPhone 16 plus…
And the IPhone feels slower.
The UI is slower. Scrolling is more stuttery. Heavy webpages that ran fine on my Android phone crawl on the iPhone. It literally has the same amount of RAM (8GB), so it can’t run anything more complex either. And it’s more unintuitive too, with all these slow and wierd gestures just to do basic things, while other features are convoluted.
And I used to be a massive iOS fanboy. I just want my jailbroken iPhone 5 back :(
You went from a 120 Hz display to 60 Hz, literally half the speed. Could’ve gone 13 Pro or Pro Max and had a better experience. Yeah, it sucks. Apple really gimps their non-pro models with displays. The Plus is just a base iPhone but bigger.
I was just reading today about a different, upcoming, Huawei foldable. Apparently, it uses þe same “falcon hinge” þis one does, and it sort of locks open and closed. If it works as well as þe reviewer said it does, it shouldn’t be any harder to hold þan a tablet.
þis one
Holy shit did that character break my brain for a second.
What character is that, this is confusing me.
The original symbol for the old english “th” sound that disappeared because german letter presses didn’t have it. Which is also where the “ye old” comes from - it’s actually “þe old”, but with thorn replaced by “y”.
Thank you!
No idea. My guess is part of a Stargate activation sequence.
Employer: “Why are you late again?”
Employee: “Sorry, I had to unfold my phone a few times this morning. It will happen again.”
Fuck everything, we’re doing five folds!
Calm down Ben .
Well we are up to 7 blade razors!
Why is the fact that it’s before the iPhone 17s reveal important it’s not like the iPhone 17 is a folding phone all that Apple have a folding iPhone at all.
It is because Apple has been dominant in the premium smartphone market for years, including in China. Huawei have started to make a big dent in that tier in China after eating Apple’s lunch in the lower price categories.
This is a feature that Huawei brought to market before Apple, which was kind of a first. Until recently, they were just following Apple’s innovations. It’s early and I wouldn’t want one now, but I wouldn’t be surprised if smartphones-that-fold-out-into-tablets was the standard by the end of the decade.
Samsung have been eating apple’s lunch for years. In terms of market share Samsung basically have all the wrong way.
How much of that is because Samsung actually offers <200USD phones, a market segment Apple ignores?
Yuk
Hey, if we’re doing quirky pones only 1% of users will ever consider buying again can you bring back hardware keyboards please?
Yes, please and thank you.
This was an interesting video / project I quite enjoyed.
For those with ADHD or just don’t have the time to watch:
He bought a Samsung Flip with a broken inner screen, removed the screen and split the phone in half, and turned it into a modern take on a slide phone.
To do so, he 3D printed a custom mold to replace the bottom half of the phone, and then shoved a Blackberry keyboard into it. Designed a custom hinge so that instead of flipping the phone open, you slide the keyboard out from behind and it drops below the cover screen—which is now the main screen—because he used a 3rd party launcher to make it behave as such. That way the phone is fully functional without the inner screen.
The only thing he didn’t do (nor did he attempt to), is figure out a way to move one or both of the cameras. Since the phone no longer flips open, the two main cameras are now both selfie cameras and there is no main camera(s).
Tl;Dr: he cut a phone in half and gave it a keyboard.
“nah, you cunts had your chance” -Blackberry.
hey, can you bring back removable batteries too, since we are at it?
Good news! EU passed the law they have to be back in 2027 (IIRC)!
I thought capitalism was supposed to provide options.
I was literally fed propaganda in American Public School about a “study” where capitalists chose what kind of soda they wanted, while communists just said “yes or no” because they viewed it all as just “soda.”
I’m starting to realize just how stupid the average idiot american is. Being raised and told you’re from the greatest country ever is deadly.
There were different types of soda available in the Soviet Union, just not as many as in the west. Want something truly weird? Try Tarkhuna. The bright green color is natural.
I thought capitalism was supposed to provide options.
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Please pack a keyboard on the back of the lowest third, so you have a smartphone-with-keyboard if ⅓ folded up.
This guy did just that:
Thought it was a really cool idea / project. Essentially a modified Z Flip.
I admit i had to stop watching after 5 minutes. Do kids like videos cut confusingly and …hyperactive like this one nowadays?
Oh, you havent seen the videos where someone literally includes random other videos on the screen at the same time cause they got bored editing?
Do they enjoy it? Probably not but hey they got bored.
meh…I just bought a Samsung Flip 7 and it’s great. Apple will invent it next year.
It’s slated for invention in 2031. Gotta stick to the 6 year rule. Can’t be too blatant about IP theft.
More like before Samsung’s trifold.
Lol whyyy
so we can play MIDI accordian songs. Who doesn’t love that.
🤑
Most of the useful idiots complaining about not having enough waste their money on dumb shit like this, or they’re defending someone else wasting their money in a similar way.
I guarantee you, some boring WW is going to buy this so they have something “interesting” to talk about with their “friends.”
