• bufalo1973@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Hasn’t anyone ever gone to a flea market? When you start a negotiation you don’t say the “fair” price. You start way below the price you are willing to pay and the seller starts way higher than the “fair” price. But the point is starting the negotiation and reaching a middle point that satisfies both parties enough to have a deal signed.

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      1 year ago

      There is no middle point that satisfies both parties. Russia wants territory. That is unacceptable. Russia needs to leave Ukraine but it will not without getting territories. This is why Ukraine needs to be strong enough to push Russia back by force.

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        1 year ago

        Of course not. All it takes is for Putin to disappear (metaphorically or physically) coining a change in government. Remember, Russia used to be quite a prosperous country when they were tackling their internal problems rather than trying to invade their neighbors constantly.

        I think we are not too far from that point. Hundreds of thousands of young soldiers killed, economy in ruins, shunned by a large part of the first world. The only way to counter that is a tightening grip on his subordinates and the population. That works only temporarily.

        And of course there’s the NATO bid. As soon as there is a truce, Ukraine can join. Exactly the reason that Russia demands that Ukraine doesn’t join. I would say the exact opposite is happening. Russia is losing and is now trying to at least block Ukraine from joining NATO.