• kingthrillgore@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    The 737 Max is a garbage product they crashed and burned with their MCAS woes. They should give up the iconic product line and go all in on selling the safer 777 as its replacement. Yes, its built for a greater range, but the 777 hasn’t been fucked with in terms of fail-deadly systems yet, and its the safest plane Boeing has in its fleet.

    If they do nothing, Airbus will get enough orders to expand its factories and blow through its backlog.

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      1 year ago

      Or in an even darker timeline Lockheed-Martin or Raytheon will open a commercial division, I guess at least the shit will work

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    1 year ago

    Interestingly enough, even if it would make sense that boeing is now fully focusing on improving quality, it also makes sense to me that airbus must be ensuring and pushing a lot of quality upgrades as well, it would be perfect marketing for them if no mistakes whatsoever happened on airbus’s planes

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      And if they didn’t develop the culture of sweeping safety issues under the rug at all levels, they won’t have much trouble keeping ahead because I’m sure that even at the height of Boeing’s safety ignoring, I bet most of the communication still looked like they took safety seriously. Just those in the know realized that they could make themselves look better by faking it and their management wouldn’t care. I’ve gotta assume that some number of them will think the current safety culture overhaul is really trying to send a message of “just be smarter about ignoring safety, don’t let it get to the point where doors fall off mid-flight and we need to kill some whistleblowers”.

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    1 year ago

    I also haven’t bought one.

    This shows that there must be actual problems with their aircraft though because airlines are not going to care about public attitude, due to the company’s politics. But if they are genuinely unsafe vehicles or have the potential to be unsafe vehicles, then they’ll stay away.

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      1 year ago

      If public attitude ever got significant enough that they couldn’t fill a certain model of plane they would definitely stop buying them, that said I’m not sure we’re at that point.

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        1 year ago

        Flight booking websites literally added these plane models so you could filter out specific planes to avoid those flights because of these stories.

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        1 year ago

        Every person I know who has flown in the last six months has inquired about the manufacturer of their plane before boarding

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    1 year ago

    Don’t they make a shitload of weapons though? They could probably never make another commercial airliner again and still do just fine.

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    1 year ago

    Yeah, yeah, but the executives that took the various decisions that made Boeing what it is now are even more millionaire than when they started at Boeing and will not see the inside of a jail cell, ever.

    So we can all rest easy knowing that those we are constantly told are the most important people who deserve to be paid so much because of being risk takers and wealth creators, will be just fine, as if a few “nobody” whistleblowers had to be taken out, well, that’s a price the trully important risk taking wealth creators were willing to pay.

    • Traegert@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      I was watching this Korean show, they made a whole huge deal about a corporation stealing 5 billion won from the public. I literally burst out laughing when I googled the conversion and it’s 3.5 mil USD, big corporations here steal that amount in a quarter second just by breathing yet in Korea it’s apparently an amount worthy of its own entire show. US is such a fucked oligarchy.

      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Assuming the show reflects corporate values and isn’t just propaganda like US police shows are intended to make the Korean public (and anyone watching from outside of Korea) think that that’s how that would be treated.

        From what I understand, South Korea’s economy is dominated by a small number of mega corps (like Samsung) that try to do pretty much everything.

    • PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      It’s not so much what the Boeing CEO called the issue so much as a technical term for when a non-conforming product gets sold at its planned inspection operation.