Basically: should i care about ethics?

  • HilichurlJack@lemmynsfw.com
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    19 days ago

    Up to you. I’m comfortable with:

    • buying smaller or indie games
    • subscribing to lesser known / low profile / niche content creators
    • pirating anything old, hard to buy, or incredibly popular (like people who make 100k+ per month on Patreon)
    • avoiding AAA games altogether, with rare exceptions (those I usually buy, or they are F2P)

    I’m also comfortable with pirating some content first and later buying/subscribing if I see I keep enjoying the content.

  • artiman@piefed.social
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    19 days ago

    Do whatever you want I personally live in iran and I have a 160$ salary previously 300$ but snapback mechanism sanctions something something and 2 AAA games are 160$, also do not buy from key selling websites that harms the developers but piracy doesn’t its the same as nobody buying

  • Eternal192@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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    19 days ago

    Technically you rented that what you think you bought and when the licence expires the game,movie, etc. will be deleted from your library, best recent example is The Crew by Ubisoft and there was that whole debacle with Sony and their Discovery Channel licence where people lost a ton of documentaries, was later restored… mostly, but it showed how fragile this digital ecosystem is and why people turn to piracy eventually since you basically don’t own anything you shouldn’t feel guilty about it.

  • Cat_Daddy [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    19 days ago

    Regardless of what conclusion you develop, some things are always morally acceptable to pirate. For example, Metallica.

    /s

    On a serious note, IP is a made up concept. Pirate away.

  • cecilkorik@lemmy.ca
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    19 days ago

    Support the creators who deserve support. Otherwise you will end up with nothing good to pirate, because all the creators who deserved support and made your favourite creations, starved to death (or got other jobs, effectively the same thing)

    Your single act of piracy is not likely to make a difference either way, but on the other hand, your single act might indeed be the straw that breaks one particular camel’s back. And collectively we have to take some responsibility for that. It’s not even just about ethics (although it is ALSO about ethics), it’s about self-interest. You can be an individual freerider if you want, but eventually the freeriders overwhelm the system and it shuts down.

    Realistically there will always be plenty, plenty of games to pirate. But the key question is, will enough of those be good games, the really enjoyable ones that you want to play? The AAA slop and rehashes will never stop, oh they’'ll churn and froth and lay people off and blame pirates but they’re effectively self-sustaining, it takes money to make money and it takes money to lose money and there’s enough money in the system to keep them churning out sequels and derivative “new IP” until the heath death of the universe. There will always be some good games to pirate and to play no matter what you do, no matter what we all do.

    But it’s not a binary condition whether our financial support or piracy matters. You vote with your dollars. Your dollars guide the AAA studios in their desperate chase to steal the dollars from us, and your dollars literally enable indie developers to continue their projects at all. If too many people are not rewarding the kinds of novel and well-made games they want to see from AAA studios, and not supporting people’s passion projects that they’ve poured years of their lives into, you’re not going to see as many novel and well-made games or passion projects like that happening, and odds are good that at least one of the ones you won’t see happening will be one you really would have enjoyed.

  • Mordikan@kbin.earth
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    19 days ago
    1. If X was not available to pirate, would you pay for it?
    2. If you would not have paid for X, does pirating X cause any actual loss to its owner? If you would not have paid for it either way (even if that were the only option) and you haven’t caused them a loss of revenue by pirating it, did you impact the creator at all?

    The counter to this is always that just because someone wouldn’t pay doesn’t mean the creator’s work has no value. To that I would yes that is completely true. The creator’s work has value, but maybe not monetary value. You can’t always conflate value to money (ex. FOSS, canonical sci-fi lore, protest symbols, etc).

    There is also a morality component used against my argument that would say I’m ignoring the intent, consent, and ownership the creator has. Its usually worded that I’m using outcome-based morality and that the ends always justifies the means by that logic. But I pay for X, not for access to use X. If the creator can opt without my consent to remove X from me, I’m not longer obligated to follow that moral constraint. Morality is a two-way street.

  • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 days ago

    When it comes to music I try to buy the stuff I like (mostly flacs) on bandcamp Fridays (certain days of the year where bandcamp charges 0% fees from the creators).

    If it’s indie/small/mid-sized creator I’d like to see more of. They also sell vinyl and other merch which is rly cool

  • Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    18 days ago

    The US Supreme Court said it’s cool for LLMs to pirate shit for their garbage so it’s free game. Pirate everything. Support indie developers and artists though if you dug some of the stuff you pirated and have the means. I pirate manga all the time but still like having a lot of the physical copies so I end up doing that a lot even though they’re usually raking in money