At least 274 Palestinians were killed and 698 wounded in Israeli strikes on the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza, Gaza’s health ministry said on Sunday. The Israeli military said its forces came under heavy fire during the daytime operation.

The EU’s top diplomat, Josep Borrell, called it a “massacre”, while the UN’s aid chief described in graphic detail scenes of “shredded bodies on the ground”.

“Nuseirat refugee camp is the epicentre of the seismic trauma that civilians in Gaza continue to suffer,” Martin Griffiths said in a post on X, calling for a ceasefire and the release of all hostages.

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    Israel detains many Palestinians including hundreds of minors without charge, on bases right in the middle of civilian towns. Heck, IDF headquarters is right in the middle of a civilian neighborhood in Tel Aviv. Does that mean Tel Aviv is a legitimate military target?

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      Is there an active battle in that area? Or is that a secure area far from conflict? Because it sounds like your contention here is that Palestinian hostages are held in secure bases far from conflict. If I were a hostage and had a choice, I’d prefer to be where there isn’t fighting.

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        You’re missing the point completely, the Israeli military knowingly puts their bases in civilian areas knowing they are targets by enemy forces, putting the surrounding civilians at risk.

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          Is there a source for that motivation? Knowingly seems unfounded.

          Edit: I may be misunderstand whatever your point is. Are you trying to say that whoever puts military bases near civilians is willfully endangering civilians? I think considerations about threat of attack come into play, and how great that risk is. Let’s also not forget people can choose to live around there or not. I mean, there are plenty of military bases in the US that are not under threat of attack. Is the US trying to endanger it’s civilians? That seems ridiculous.

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            Are you trying to say that whoever puts military bases near civilians is willfully endangering civilians?

            Yes according to Israeli logic based on what they say about Palestinians and Lebanese. Their behavior is hypocritical.

            I think considerations about threat of attack come into play, and how great that risk is.

            Hamas, Hizbullah, and Iran have all directly targeted these military installations, some in cities, and Israeli PR hollowly complains about how civilians are put in peril.

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              I don’t think you have an understanding of their military choices to make that claim, and I’m kind of confused as to your point so I’m going to cut to the chase. Are you suggesting it’s ok that Hamas does this because Israel has (not equivalently, let’s not get ahead of ourselves and say I agree with you)?

              Edit: because you’re getting fiesty with me in the other comment, I’m not continuing this with you.