• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    I mean to be fair the Democrats trotted out an obscenely draconian immigration bill that was basically every Republicans wet dream about the border and the only reason it didn’t pass was because it included Ukraine funding and the Republicans didn’t want to give Biden a win.

    Call me crazy, but giving the Republicans everything they want just to gain small concessions is bonkers and makes it seem like Democrats really don’t have that much of a problem with horrific policies that Republicans want.

    The Democrats leaned on DREAMers for like a decade and were going to fucking throw them under the bus with that border bill in a way that screamed “Political capital is used up, fuck them DREAMers!”

    They are not the same but Democrats spend way too much time trying to make deals with people who only want to hurt them and others so they can be seen “reaching across the aisle.”

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        https://apnews.com/article/biden-immigration-executive-order-asylum-border-7cd0b0f28e298036ad1fc6b0c78961e1

        Is this political brinksmanship?


        Fuck me, it’s just like how Trump said “we need to stop testing for COVID” and then Biden never said it out loud, but he just stopped funding testing for COVID but didn’t say the words “we need to stop testing for COVID.” He just did it instead of saying it and somehow everyone was fine with it.

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        The Senate Democrats also reintroduced the bill on its own, and let the Republicans vote against it. This was absolutely a political move on their part, letting the GOP tear itself apart arguing about whether they should’ve voted for or against it. They’re taking advantage of the existing tensions and divisions within the party to weaken them.

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        and brinskmanship is a good thing? That’s how you catch the car and end up the villain. It’s the brinksmanship that Republicans played for a decade that led to Donald Trump getting elected. Do not make the mistake of thinking the Democrats are somehow immune to that effect.

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                The best way party officials are spinning this is that he is expecting the courts to issue a stay right away and this run up is to give the ACLU enough warning to have the case ready to go.

                This is just more brinksmanship.

                And if they call his bluff, which leaning Conservative the courts just might, he’s now got to either rescind the order in shame or deal with a Republican PR wet dream for the rest of the campaign season.

                When you shut down the border based on numbers and automatically deny asylum to anyone who was too late it turns into a physical game at the border. The 2nd or 3rd time someone announces the border is back open everyone who wants asylum is going to run for it, creating huge crowds. The RNC is going to have cameras there and what do you think the headline is going to be? It’s not going to be, “Biden Tough on Border”. It’s going to be stuff like, “Chaos at Border!”, “Biden Loses Control”, “Border States Deploy Armed National Guard”

                Doubling down on the tactic doesn’t make it not brinksmanship. And it does signal he has no problem abandoning his base.