I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I’ll leave it at cosmic horror warning.

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I’m not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don’t know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can’t rule out the possibility way)

So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I’m writing this I realized that’s nothing to fear).

I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it’s okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).

Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.

  • lb_o@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    The fact that your particular molecules will reconstruct into something else is 100% certain

    Will you keep your particular consciousness in this process - unlikely

    However if you drop off the definition of You as your current limited body and mind, then reincarnation is exactly what happens.

  • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org
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    12 days ago

    I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body

    Some parts remain even after you forget. That is the outcome of your own free decisions, that has formed part of your personality. For example, you like cornflowers because you have decided to like it. So when you forget how cornflowers look, you will still like them when you see them, even without really remembering them. A good part of your personality is formed in that way: you have decided to be that way.

    I believe that (most of ?) our personality remains when the current body goes to compost and we enter the next world, either up or down :)

  • Vanth@reddthat.comEnglish
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    12 days ago

    Nope. I have never seen any evidence of reincarnation, so have no reason to believe in it.

    • Cattail@lemmy.worldOP
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      10 days ago

      I think this universe sucks, not to ignore human history. Lots of it is empty space apparently cosmic events can wipe you out with next to no warning, your made up of atoms and cells that can die and degrade, and we are stuck to this solar system because space isn’t empty it’s full of shit thats going to kill you

      • sheogorath@lemmy.world
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        10 days ago

        Which is why my headcanon for this universe is that we’re basically running rogue playthrough in this life. After you die, you’ll regain all your “soul” memories and will be given a choice to “replay” with another life and losing your memories “again” until you’ve reached a certain level of enlightenment and then you’ll “graduate” from our current level of existence.

        Call me crazy but it helps me sleep at night, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz
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    11 days ago

    We live in an infinite universe. As such, it seems hubristic to me to believe that we have, more or less, nature figured out.

    I don’t feel compelled to believe in the soul as some strange sort of object that is continuously reincarnated towards a great purpose. But if we consider consciousness as an energy of its own kind, then it should hold true that it cannot be created or destroyed, only change form. This could mean that the consciousness that resides in the body could move between different life forms like a fluid, freely mixing and melding with others, filling a new vessel as necessary.

    • Cattail@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 days ago

      I don’t know if I can believe in a great purpose, is there an end that’s meant to be reached or is it like we find the next step.

      Maybe we dream, and works towards it if we achieve it; we dream again. We can enjoy it, be absolutely ambivalent, or even suffer. Maybe I can get back to appreciating the universe unfolding in front of me.

  • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Anyone who says they know what happens when you die is trying to grift you. No one knows and we all find out one day, no point in dwelling on it.

  • Wahots@pawb.social
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    11 days ago

    It’s hard to say exactly. I wouldn’t put it past the dev(s) to have potentially put something like “The Egg” in, so potentially yes, though we’d have no way of testing for it.

    Story by Andy Weir here: https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI

    • Cattail@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 days ago

      Yeah I watched that video when it was new and had it rattling around in my head. It probably why I starting thinking memories and intelligence aren’t part of consciousness. I do think emotions are connected to consciousness because they seem to override decision making.

        • Cattail@lemmy.worldOP
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          10 days ago

          It’s a long story, but I made this post to cope. I’m feeling better, I’m mixing up my routine. I am getting annoyed when I come across people talking about death.

          Yesterday I did help someone that had a pop-up canopy collapse on them under heavy winds.

  • 𒉀TheGuyTM3𒉁@lemmy.ml
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    11 days ago

    To be honest, the only answer i have to say is: “we’ll see”. Wheter it’s nothing or not, the second option would imply that there is effectively something beyond what we know about the universe.

    What even is the soul? YOU from now think very different than YOU from ten years ago. Can we say that those two people are the same? Not really. Yet you share common memories with this early you, who doesn’t exist anynore. Is it technically correct in this point of view to say that you are the reincarnation of you from ten years ago?

    If someone in the far future were to think like you, to remember exact memories from yours, would act the same way you would act in the same situation, it would not we wrong to say they are your reincarnation, no?

    Again i’m just supposing.

  • Perspectivist@feddit.uk
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    12 days ago

    Not in the traditional sense, but I have a pet theory about the continuation of consciousness.

    You can only experience being, not not-being, so even if your consciousness went dark for a million years before being “reincarnated,” there would be no gap from the perspective of your subjective experience. You can only go from having one experience to having another. Nothingness can’t be experienced.

    • Cattail@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 days ago

      Makes me think about going into a coma from a car accident. Your consciousness could be out for however long, then you make a weird fantasy and regain consciousness and start a journey to fill recovery. It would be good to have a healthy attitude/mindset imprinted onto yourself in that scenario.

  • tiredofsametab@fedia.io
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    12 days ago

    Nope. When I die, there is no longer a me of any sort; just any media and memory that captures some moment of when I still was until those too fade.

    • Cattail@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 days ago

      I felt that way too, but then I watched re zero and that changed my mentally. I watch the anime last year